High alk for coral growth

[CastAway]

Tagging along....

 

[Russ265]

after a bit of rummaging... this article states exactly what ive been stating in it's entirety.

that if you look at the factors on previous experiments, that they werent all included. this is why we have blanket terms like "phosphate inhibits calcification" to scare aquarists that phosphate should be 0. When infact, growth increases, it is the density that changes.

or "nitrogen inhibits growth" without grasping the full concept of what they say.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.4319/lo.2007.52.3.1139/full

id call this a smoking gun if there ever was one. at least its on a white paper and what ive long suspected as well as spoken about.

i wonder if i can get back in to those forums i got banned for with an apology to boot.

 

[mcarroll]

the attached article about symbiodinium is on target with what ive read as well but doesnt get as indepth as i like. perhaps ive read too much on the subject.

Thank goodness for the ones that are brief!!!

I appreciated it for that, but mostly for it's interesting angle of questioning the assumed "beneficial" nature of the relationship between coral and dino.....as always, it's more complicated than that.

after a bit of rummaging... this article states exactly what ive been stating in it's entirety.

I assume you're talking about the "Long term effects..." article that kind of does a survey of past research and then some observations/conclusions of their own as well? I liked that one a lot.

(I'm still waiting for more time to read the links you sent, if that's what you were referring to....today has not been the easiest day.)

 

[Russ265]

Thank goodness for the ones that are brief!!!

I appreciated it for that, but mostly for it's interesting angle of questioning the assumed "beneficial" nature of the relationship between coral and dino.....as always, it's more complicated than that.



I assume you're talking about the "Long term effects..." article that kind of does a survey of past research and then some observations/conclusions of their own as well? I liked that one a lot.

(I'm still waiting for more time to read the links you sent, if that's what you were referring to....today has not been the easiest day.)

was referring to the last article i posted. that would sum up everything. coral stress, zoox density, nutrients, etc

repost

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.4319/lo.2007.52.3.1139/full

 

[mcarroll]

i wonder if i can get back in to those forums i got banned for with an apology to boot.

I'm 100% with you in principle. But.....if you actually could "go back", would you really want to?

 

[mcarroll]

was referring to the last article i posted. that would sum up everything. coral stress, zoox density, nutrients, etc

repost

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.4319/lo.2007.52.3.1139/full

Right on. Will hit that link first when I get time...probably late tonight.

 

[Russ265]

I'm 100% with you in principle. But.....if you actually could "go back", would you really want to?

nope. but it IS funny to see these days.

 

[Tonya Correa]

I know this a pretty old thread but I'm interested in a few things. First we have had an issue with our kh ranging from 12-13 for the last few months. We switched our water to Red Sea pro but still have the same readings. Is there a coral that will thrive in high alk? We have tried many things to get the alk down to "normal" but are having no success

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I know this a pretty old thread but I'm interested in a few things. First we have had an issue with our kh ranging from 12-13 for the last few months. We switched our water to Red Sea pro but still have the same readings. Is there a coral that will thrive in high alk? We have tried many things to get the alk down to "normal" but are having no success

Assuming adequate nutrients are available, all corals should do OK. The Red Sea pro does provide very high alkalinity.

 

[Miami Reef]

Assuming adequate nutrients are available, all corals should do OK

Do you still agree with this statement, Randy?

Do you foresee any possible issues with difficult acropora in higher alk (9-10dKH) assuming PO4 is 0.05-0.10 and NO3 about 10ppm?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Do you still agree with this statement, Randy?

Do you foresee any possible issues with difficult acropora in higher alk (9-10dKH) assuming PO4 is 0.05-0.10 and NO3 about 10ppm?

I think so, but I don’t know for sure.