HOB fuge just exploded

[lucas-grimm]

was just asking for help 30 minutes before this on a skimmer, and now the hob refugium that housed the pumps to my uv, carbon reactor, protein skimmer, apex probes randomly crackled along the entire side and began draining the tank (i couldn’t find what pump it was lol). What do i do now????? do i replace the hob fuge and move forward? it already barely fit my needs and i have been thinking about building something more robust that can handle a more powerful pump, but i’m not sure.

 

[vetteguy53081]

was just asking for help 30 minutes before this on a skimmer, and now the hob refugium that housed the pumps to my uv, carbon reactor, protein skimmer, apex probes randomly crackled along the entire side and began draining the tank (i couldn’t find what pump it was lol). What do i do now????? do i replace the hob fuge and move forward? it already barely fit my needs and i have been thinking about building something more robust that can handle a more powerful pump, but i’m not sure.

Replace fuge and temporarily you can utilize a canister filter until you find a replacement but dont make it long term

 

[lucas-grimm]

Replace fuge and temporarily you can utilize a canister filter until you find a replacement but dont make it long term

utilize canisters meaning as filtration or to replace the fuge? i had no plans of adding an actual sump in the future.

 

[vetteguy53081]

utilize canisters meaning as filtration or to replace the fuge? i had no plans of adding an actual sump in the future.

filtration

 

[Goaway]

Sounds like a lot of weight for the fuge to support. How many pumps were in the container?

 

[doubleshot00]

You had all those items in the fuge? Im so confused.

 

[lucas-grimm]

filtration

i’ve done a lot of research into this. maybe now is the time to look back into it and go with a sump.

 

[lucas-grimm]

Sounds like a lot of weight for the fuge to support. How many pumps were in the container?

1x sicce 4.0
1x sicce 5.0
1x sicce 1.5

 

[lucas-grimm]

You had all those items in the fuge? Im so confused.

yes, since i don’t run a sump, i wanted the pumps out of the display. i put the pumps and the returns to whatever piece of equipment they ran into the fuge, so the fuge was never loosing/gaining water. long term, the fuge pump was too slow for good turnover.

 

[Goaway]

1x sicce 4.0
1x sicce 5.0
1x sicce 1.5

I don't know how much those weigh. Those hob fuges aren't designed to be a sump. They crack pretty easy.

I would go with a hob overflow + sump or 2 hob fuges. Just sounds like an over load.

 

[lucas-grimm]

I don't know how much those weigh. Those hob fuges aren't designed to be a sump. They crack pretty easy.

I would go with a hob overflow + sump or 2 hob fuges. Just sounds like an over load.

i think i’m going to have to go with either 2 fuges or go diy. i’m thinking about doing a 5 gal bucket away from (and above) the tank with a stronger pump like a sicce 5.0 in tank and protected from the fish and livestock (wrapped in a sponge cube or something) and then drill a hole in the 5 gal bucket, add a bulkhead and drain back into the tank.

 

[doubleshot00]

yes, since i don’t run a sump, i wanted the pumps out of the display. i put the pumps and the returns to whatever piece of equipment they ran into the fuge, so the fuge was never loosing/gaining water. long term, the fuge pump was too slow for good turnover.

Why do you have so many pumps? Im still confused about the picture. Lol

 

[fishguy242]

pic of crack , can use weld on to temp repair, skip a pump or 2 ? for now
agree add overflow boxe and a sump.
where are you located ? have extra fuge and some weld on on hand if not too far.

edit have no clue why line is through words.

 

[Ef4life]

i think i’m going to have to go with either 2 fuges or go diy. i’m thinking about doing a 5 gal bucket away from (and above) the tank with a stronger pump like a sicce 5.0 in tank and protected from the fish and livestock (wrapped in a sponge cube or something) and then drill a hole in the 5 gal bucket, add a bulkhead and drain back into the tank.

I, As someone with an irregular tank setup, have a frag tank set up as a giant hob filter to my display it’s similar to what you wrote about mounting a 5g bucket overhead, if power goes out my display tank will overflow guaranteed. It’s only about a gallon or so, but it’s a mess.

what I’m trying to say is you would be turning your display tank into a display sump so you need to make sure your tank can handle that amount of water volume flowing back into your sump in a power outage

 

[lucas-grimm]

I, As someone with an irregular tank setup, have a frag tank set up as a giant hob filter to my display it’s similar to what you wrote about mounting a 5g bucket overhead, if power goes out my display tank will overflow guaranteed. It’s only about a gallon or so, but it’s a mess.

what I’m trying to say is you would be turning your display tank into a display sump so you need to make sure your tank can handle that amount of water volume flowing back into your sump in a power outage

i have another idea. purchasing either one large or a few small ones and putting them together to house the pumps themselves, and then have the pump outlets run right into the tank. these wouldn’t be glued to the tank and are only a cover for aesthetic purposes of course

 

[Tamberav]

I feel like this is an accident waiting to happen. What happens if the HOB pump fails? Do the pumps just run dry?

Why not a sump?

 

[lucas-grimm]

I feel like this is an accident waiting to happen. What happens if the HOB pump fails?

Why not a sump?

if the hob pump failed, all the pumps for the equipment would continue to cycle the water inside the hob overflow already, simply not pulling in any new water.

 

[Tamberav]

if the hob pump failed, all the pumps for the equipment would continue to cycle the water inside the hob overflow already, simply not pulling in any new water.

So you would have a bunch of pumps running dry? or do they all return back to the hob?

 

[Ef4life]

i have another idea. purchasing either one large or a few small ones and putting them together to house the pumps themselves, and then have the pump outlets run right into the tank. these wouldn’t be glued to the tank and are only a cover for aesthetic purposes of course

I feel like your working awfully hard to not get a sump, when I sump would make your tank a lot simpler and easier to maintain

 

[Tamberav]

lol honestly +1 above...

All the pumps and maintenance and failure points and weight on the rim and so on...