HomeWrecker under normal lighting?

[ciscomania]

JF has some frags with premium price tags but they do look nice. At least his price isn't absurd like what cornbread charges.

 

[Graffiti Spot]

I'm running radions at 20k per EcoSmartLive settings. Actually, I'm mistaken...I switched to their SPS AB+ program which is 18.5k. My lights never get any "whiter" than that, and based on what "daylight" on the reef is, blue in the spectrum would still be "daylight". Btw, the "whiter" or yellower you run lights, the more drab any corals will look...colors just start looking lackluster under anything much whiter than 14k IMHO.

Right, radions call that range a certain kelvin rating. Now company number two makes a LED unit that looks very blue with the same rating. I am not going to pretend to be an led expert, I only use them for suppliment lights and have no experience with any fixtures but I bet a lot of people will agree the kelvin ratings on different units all vary a little across the board. I agree daylight on the reef would have blue in it if we duplicated it in our tanks but a frag plug does not look blue when brought into it and hands don't look very blue.

I guess your talking about LEDs when you say they look lackluster anything whiter than 14k? Definitely not the case when using halides, maybe anything under 10k for halide. 10k with some suppliment tubes has given some amazing colors on reef tanks in my opinion and even others as a number of tank of the months were using these. Even bring out pigments blue bulbs can't. I don't see anything more to say since I think we can all agree not many kelvin ratings companies label lights look the same.

I am still waiting for more pics anyone can provide of the hw in a whiter spectrum of light so the non led users can see what it's supposed to look like. The Walt Disney came out looking like one coral all crazy rainbows in the pics, and now anyone who has it under halides or most t5s will have the coral look completely different. I bet this one will do the same thing, and I believe that's the point people are trying to argue anyways... And by no means are any of my posts meant to be viewed as argumentative.

 

[Daniel@R2R Verified Admin]

Let's state the Kevins you are using to take the picture as the reference so instead of trying to define what daylight is we simply label the Kevins used so that people can see how HW looks under different light spec.

I think this is a very helpful idea. This way anyone seeing it knows the spectrum they're seeing it under. If someone doesn't know the Kelvin rating, they can at least give the bulb combo or LED settings.

 

[justingraham]

Well this is like the Walt Disney thread part two the home wrecker.

First I have had the pleasure of meeting Jason a couple of times at shows.
First encounter for me he was a little arrogant and mean
Second thru eighth time he was nothing but nice and awesome
So he's human prolly had a bad day that first time also the only time he didn't have a home wrecker on him maby why he was that way lost it or whatever doesn't matter. Jason is a real person and it's kinda weird people who have never met him or talked to him claim he alters photos or is a liar. Name the top three sps vendors. I'm no order at all wwc battle corals and Jason fox. Why because there stuff is legit.

I have seen the homewrecker seven times in person and anyone saying that Jason alters his photos is just wrong man what u see online is what u get from him.

U know what he might alter his photos but if he is he alters them to make it look like it does in real life.

I was involved in a live sale of his the pics online where I bought them were exactly what showed up colors even down to the last polop was exact. Also one of the corals didn't ship well (that does happen to everyone corals are alive people the lose color as well) I told him nothing prior about it and just brought it up to him in a convo at his booth. In the middle of me talking to him he turned his back to me and I was like aw man he's not even listening to me well I was wrong he was grabbing a bag and he put the coral that didn't ship well into it handed it to me and said hey thanks for ur business I hope this one does better for ya. I tried to pay him and he wouldn't take the money.

U guys trolling as @mdbannister says go somewhere else. Jason has his name and respect for a reason.

And to that one guy yeah Jason didn't bring a homewrecker because he knew u were coming to the frag swap and he purposely didn't want to have one there so u couldn't see it in person so u have to fly to his house to see it. Big conspiracy thoery against ya. Jason also has stick in Southwest Airlines Do U listen to urself honestly?? Go bash something else besides Jason please. There is an old Walt Disney thread u will fit right into.

Op I had pictures of the hw on my old phone from Jason's booth I just don't know where that phone is now but it looks exactly like what's online.

I wish I had a grand to drop on this coral for a couple reasons one is is awesome two I know I'm supporting someone who is in this hobby for a good reason. But I am not rich so I will wait it out.

Sorry carry on I just had to vent that because of the jealous people out there who can only grow red slime let alone a coral like this

 

[huuta]

Must be a fake JFox at a fake JFox booth with a fake HW that i talk to at the FFM this year .I'm gonna ask to see if i can pinch him to make sure he is the real deal next year lol

 

[justingraham]

Must be a fake JFox at a fake JFox booth with a fake HW that i talk to at the FFM this year .I'm gonna ask to see if i can pinch him to make sure he is the real deal next year lol

Yea the one I met must have been fake as well all the way down to the fake van with Baltimore plates.

 

[Peng]

I don't know what the WD thread was about but I have WD. Under actinic or even just top down it looks fabulous with orange, green polyps and orange coralite purple tips but when I look through the front view it doesn't stand out and looks pretty average. Vendors like ReefCornor actually show both top-down and front view which I think is a plus.

 

[.AcroKiller.]

First off, you could do this 1000X and you WILL NEVER get a tenius like the Homewrecker. Second off we should clear this point up. It's not photoshopped, it looks like that in person! I've seen multiple representatives including a mother colony, in both blue and "white lighting"

Not all vendors photos are blown out and overly saturated. Just because you won't cough up the dough for it, doesn't mean someone else is doing something dishonest. "Those are just sour grapes".

My limited experience with what Jason Fox has sent me (Including the Homewrecker), has looked identical to his photos, color and all. The man's corals fluoresce. Claiming he does otherwise isn't cool, it's not right. There's no reason for it.

Some people WANT to support aquaculture, So a vender selling some high end frags keep the lights on for another month might not be such a bad thing.

I have NO interest in finding an outlet for "corals I don't want, or don't like". I'm trying to be a responsible human being and only take what I like, these are not disposable creatures to be relegated to the trash bin or be offloaded on the unprepared LFS just because I want to save some money or pick through what I like. I also don't have the time/resources to deal with handling 20 colonies at one time.

I worked in the industry for many years, I know the risks in ordering bulk shipments of corals, it's a big gamble itself. My idea of coral shopping/buying isn't trying to argue with the airlines why my shipment got bumped to accommodate some other persons luggage.

@Peng I apologize that you took offense. It was not directed at you. But the fact is they are out there, and they surround this coral. Everytime someone posts a picture they crop up and talk about how it's all photoshopped and how oversaturated the photos are, and it just isn't the case. Accusing people of shady buisness dealings and claiming that it is false advertising, when they aren't is absolutely uncalled for, and unethical. It also shouldn't be tolerated by responsible reef keepers. We are talking about a man's livelyhood and credibility here.

This is a fragile business that is growing, we can either foster it or we can let it be destroyed.

Just my $.02

Really??? When you can find me an aquadelight that looks like this please let me know.

 

[Reefer525XL]

Just thought I'd leave this here. Not hating on the HW though, I got one coming next week.

 

[Velcro]

If you have never seen jason fox's coral in his tank at an event then you have no business posting in here about it being fake.

I was stunned with his stuff in person. Lots of people in here are just being keyboard warriors with no experience with Jason's stuff.

 

[N4sty T4te]

First off, you could do this 1000X and you WILL NEVER get a tenius like the Homewrecker. Second off we should clear this point up. It's not photoshopped, it looks like that in person! I've seen multiple representatives including a mother colony, in both blue and "white lighting"

Not all vendors photos are blown out and overly saturated. Just because you won't cough up the dough for it, doesn't mean someone else is doing something dishonest. "Those are just sour grapes".

My limited experience with what Jason Fox has sent me (Including the Homewrecker), has looked identical to his photos, color and all. The man's corals fluoresce. Claiming he does otherwise isn't cool, it's not right. There's no reason for it.

Some people WANT to support aquaculture, So a vender selling some high end frags keep the lights on for another month might not be such a bad thing.

I have NO interest in finding an outlet for "corals I don't want, or don't like". I'm trying to be a responsible human being and only take what I like, these are not disposable creatures to be relegated to the trash bin or be offloaded on the unprepared LFS just because I want to save some money or pick through what I like. I also don't have the time/resources to deal with handling 20 colonies at one time.

I worked in the industry for many years, I know the risks in ordering bulk shipments of corals, it's a big gamble itself. My idea of coral shopping/buying isn't trying to argue with the airlines why my shipment got bumped to accommodate some other persons luggage.

@Peng I apologize that you took offense. It was not directed at you. But the fact is they are out there, and they surround this coral. Everytime someone posts a picture they crop up and talk about how it's all photoshopped and how oversaturated the photos are, and it just isn't the case. Accusing people of shady buisness dealings and claiming that it is false advertising, when they aren't is absolutely uncalled for, and unethical. It also shouldn't be tolerated by responsible reef keepers. We are talking about a man's livelyhood and credibility here.

This is a fragile business that is growing, we can either foster it or we can let it be destroyed.

Just my $.02

I have to agree, of all the vendors I have used... Jason Fox's photos are extremely accurate representations to how they look to the naked eye. Another positive is that you don't even need to dip his corals. He makes SURE they are all pest free and will grow in captivity, everyone should read up on his QT techniques. They are intense.

 

[Michael43]

This is under day light for me which is a combo of t5 and led. But the led does have some blues on

 

[.AcroKiller.]

I have to agree, of all the vendors I have used... Jason Fox's photos are extremely accurate representations to how they look to the naked eye. Another positive is that you don't even need to dip his corals. He makes SURE they are all pest free and will grow in captivity, everyone should read up on his QT techniques. They are intense.

Agree a lot of his stuff looks great and I am a fan of the home wrecker and I do have friends that have it and they all say it looks like it in person but again when you can find and Aqua delight that looks like this please let me know. Heck even Greg him self commented saying it never looked like this picture on the Boston forum.

 

[.AcroKiller.]

Anyways I'm not trying to get off topic but it kills me when I see people post saying that vendors do not hype coral colors.

Great examples are
Dipping dots acro
Cornbred maleficent
WD
Jf Greg hiller Aqua delights
Ect.

 

[Reefer525XL]

I have to agree, of all the vendors I have used... Jason Fox's photos are extremely accurate representations to how they look to the naked eye. Another positive is that you don't even need to dip his corals. He makes SURE they are all pest free and will grow in captivity, everyone should read up on his QT techniques. They are intense.

Where does it say how he QT?

 

[Daniel@R2R Verified Admin]

Anyways I'm not trying to get off topic but it kills me when I see people post saying that vendors do not hype coral colors.

Great examples are
Dipping dots acro
Cornbred maleficent
WD
Jf Greg hiller Aqua delights
Ect.

I don't think anyone would say that no vendors hype coral colors. I can give some examples as well. I absolutely agree that photo misrepresentation is deceptive and unethical...and unfortunately it IS a problem. I think most of us are saying that not ALL vendors do it (I'd go so far as to say that most vendors are honest people), and in this particular case the argument is that the HW is as represented in the picture (as you've also affirmed).

 

[Marquiseo]

 

[N4sty T4te]

Where does it say how he QT?

Can't remember where I read it but he actually goes and dives himself to find new species then brings them back. He does a 1st stage quarantine for a few months, then cuts the base off, re-glues and re-quarantines for a few more months. Then Cuts again re-glues and quarantines again for a few months before he introduces it to the grow out facility.

 

[Peng]

Lol sometimes when I'm taking editing pics I find it extremely tempting to jack up the saturation to make the photo more pleasing.

 

[Velcro]

Lol sometimes when I'm taking editing pics I find it extremely tempting to jack up the saturation to make the photo more pleasing.

Those three sliders make it look ridiculous.