HomeWrecker under normal lighting?
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Clayalaleona
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I think I need to dig up my original Homewrecker picture that shut everyone up the first time lol
Sure it's been stolen over and over and over but it proves a point.
If you can color it up the Homewrecker is one of if not the nicest acros out there. Its expensive, it's not for everyone but if you get it you will not regret it.
Yes there are other options but it's not a Homewrecker lol.
On the cycling of wild acros:
Not everyone has that type of space or QT set up. Yes, it's completely possible but 90% of people cannot do it the right way and what ends up happening are dead acros, tons of pests, and all sorts grouchy reefers.
I'm not saying you can't find some amazing pieces I'm just saying that for most the transition into tank life is made very difficult.
A lot of people on this thread aren't asking for daylight pics, they want cellphone pictures that look like the type of pictures they themselves can take. This is reasonable but you cannot fault someone for being able to use a DSLR properly.
And most people that don't believe in the Homewrecker also will not have their opinion changed by a thread. I will say that the first round of frags from Jason were much more colored up and mostly purple but maybe he changed light or something for faster growth because of demand.
In the words of the little old wholesale lady I used to buy from "you no like, you no buy"
Sure it's been stolen over and over and over but it proves a point.
If you can color it up the Homewrecker is one of if not the nicest acros out there. Its expensive, it's not for everyone but if you get it you will not regret it.
Yes there are other options but it's not a Homewrecker lol.
On the cycling of wild acros:
Not everyone has that type of space or QT set up. Yes, it's completely possible but 90% of people cannot do it the right way and what ends up happening are dead acros, tons of pests, and all sorts grouchy reefers.
I'm not saying you can't find some amazing pieces I'm just saying that for most the transition into tank life is made very difficult.
A lot of people on this thread aren't asking for daylight pics, they want cellphone pictures that look like the type of pictures they themselves can take. This is reasonable but you cannot fault someone for being able to use a DSLR properly.
And most people that don't believe in the Homewrecker also will not have their opinion changed by a thread. I will say that the first round of frags from Jason were much more colored up and mostly purple but maybe he changed light or something for faster growth because of demand.
In the words of the little old wholesale lady I used to buy from "you no like, you no buy"
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Lol nah. It was a joke. Im done with the acro scene. After personally learning how to manipulate color change, lighting and coral stressing, I don't feel confident buying from any of these so called "well known vendors". SPS are the easiest to manipulate.
Daniel@R2R
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Ha ha! Please teach the rest of us!!
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I touched on it in my last build thread before I stopped posting in it. I am pretty sure if I devoted more time to it, I could write a full article but I have no time because of work and I am waiting to move so I can have a "real tank".Ha ha! Please teach the rest of us!!
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Here is an example using a WWC Oil Spill Chalice:Ha ha! Please teach the rest of us!!
Also, I'm not saying he did that with the Homewrecker which may be a nice acro; I am just saying it looks nothing like that overly saturated photo he released and wanted everyone to believe it looked like.
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Daniel@R2R
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Here is an example using a WWC Oil Spill Chalice:
I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing here.
I thought you were saying that you have figured out how to manipulate coral colors...which I think would basically make you a guru in the reefing community since that's kind of the goal (to have the ability to bring out the best colors).
I'm telling you it DOES look like his pic. Have you seen his acro in person? I saw it at a show, and YES, it did look just like his pic.
happyhourhero
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He squirted some food mixed with trace minerals at the coral which killed the tissue. The dying tissue turned green before it melted away = manipulated color.
Daniel@R2R
Living the Reef Life
It's a pretty commonly known fact that corals may (commonly do) shift colors when moving to a new system. So buying any coral will mean needing to work to bring out the best color/growth in it.
Rick.45cal
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First off, you could do this 1000X and you WILL NEVER get a tenius like the Homewrecker. Second off we should clear this point up. It's not photoshopped, it looks like that in person! I've seen multiple representatives including a mother colony, in both blue and "white lighting"
Not all vendors photos are blown out and overly saturated. Just because you won't cough up the dough for it, doesn't mean someone else is doing something dishonest. "Those are just sour grapes".
My limited experience with what Jason Fox has sent me (Including the Homewrecker), has looked identical to his photos, color and all. The man's corals fluoresce. Claiming he does otherwise isn't cool, it's not right. There's no reason for it.
Some people WANT to support aquaculture, So a vender selling some high end frags keep the lights on for another month might not be such a bad thing.
I have NO interest in finding an outlet for "corals I don't want, or don't like". I'm trying to be a responsible human being and only take what I like, these are not disposable creatures to be relegated to the trash bin or be offloaded on the unprepared LFS just because I want to save some money or pick through what I like. I also don't have the time/resources to deal with handling 20 colonies at one time.
I worked in the industry for many years, I know the risks in ordering bulk shipments of corals, it's a big gamble itself. My idea of coral shopping/buying isn't trying to argue with the airlines why my shipment got bumped to accommodate some other persons luggage.
@Peng I apologize that you took offense. It was not directed at you. But the fact is they are out there, and they surround this coral. Everytime someone posts a picture they crop up and talk about how it's all photoshopped and how oversaturated the photos are, and it just isn't the case. Accusing people of shady buisness dealings and claiming that it is false advertising, when they aren't is absolutely uncalled for, and unethical. It also shouldn't be tolerated by responsible reef keepers. We are talking about a man's livelyhood and credibility here.
This is a fragile business that is growing, we can either foster it or we can let it be destroyed.
Just my $.02
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With that logic, con-artists can sell you anything and put the blame on your system.
Also, that's different from receiving a coral that doesn't look like the photo and saying that with a little love and care, it will one day be like that picture.
Thank you for everyone that posted a photo of their coral. I really appreciate seeing some of these in peoples tanks. I know it can't be fun to spend that sort of money and then have it look different from what you hoped - so thank you again.
I personally will not buy any expensive high end coral (200 plus) until I see grown colonies in peoples tanks and hopefully with the same lighting I use. I don't care how amazing something looks on a vendor website, or even from that vendor in person! I just need to see if frags will grow into matching colonies so I really appreciate people sharing photos.
I personally will not buy any expensive high end coral (200 plus) until I see grown colonies in peoples tanks and hopefully with the same lighting I use. I don't care how amazing something looks on a vendor website, or even from that vendor in person! I just need to see if frags will grow into matching colonies so I really appreciate people sharing photos.
hybridazn
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Oh man, this post again????
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Nah it doesn't. No way you can convince me otherwise. He didn't bring one to the show; I'm definitely not wasting money flying to his house to see a coral as others suggested.
luke33
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This thread is entertaining but is going nowhere. The JF Homewrecker is a fantastic piece, it looks great in white light as well as blue led. I believe some pics are a bid adjusted and some not so much. Buy it or don't, makes no difference to me and shouldn't really to anyone else. I don't understand all the arguing, I mean, who cares 
Just make sure you don't kill it if you do buy it ;Woot
Just make sure you don't kill it if you do buy it ;Woot
KJAG
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This is true for any coral. Your seeing a total raw and uninhibited view from a top down perspective. The vibrancy always looks profoundly better from that vantage point. Until they come up with some sort of zero gravity force field where we can eliminate those pesky glass or acrylic panes of glass, and just enjoy levitiating perfectly rectangular bodies of water to view our collections through, the phenomenon of a display panel vantage point failing to pop as vibrantly as the top down view is not exclusive or relevant to the piece mentioned in this thread.
KJAG
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Well said. I've never understood the inflammatory rhetoric secondary to those who don't feel compelled to spend big $ on high end frags. I keep a bottle of artificial tears on hand just to keep my eyeballs lubed from all the eye rolling that results from reading those posts. Just, don't, buy, it.. Problem solved!This thread is entertaining but is going nowhere. The JF Homewrecker is a fantastic piece, it looks great in white light as well as blue led. I believe some pics are a bid adjusted and some not so much. Buy it or don't, makes no difference to me and shouldn't really to anyone else. I don't understand all the arguing, I mean, who cares
Just make sure you don't kill it if you do buy it ;Woot
Daniel@R2R
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So...you're denying that corals shift color when moving to a new system? That's a pretty odd claim to make since it flies in the face of the experience of pretty much everyone who has ever bought coral. I'm not talking about corals that have been shipped (though I do believe from personal experience and from reading the experience of others that corals do stress sometimes in shipping and color loss may be a result of this). I'm talking about seeing something in someone else's tank (so you can verify the colors) and buying it...even then colors will sometimes shift from the change in environment. Or are you saying that coral color has nothing to do with environmental factors?
Who said that? I don't think any such statement has been made in this thread. At this point, I think you're just pumping a claim of photo manipulation because it fits your own preconceived bias.
So you're just making a claim that all reputable vendors use photography and photoshop to manipulate and deceive customers? Again, this sounds like an unhealthy amount of skepticism that's built on a preconceived bias. Not everyone is honest, but IME in this hobby, more people are honest than not, and that goes for vendors just as much as hobbyists.
So...you're calling me a liar without ever having seen one...ok, dude, I'm out. You're just trolling at this point.
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