Jakepen
Few beers and I'll frag anything...
Hey guys, setting up my 180 will be plumbing it soon. Plan is to do bean animal, however ive never plumbed anything before. Is there a thread that walks me thru it step by step?
How do I Bean Animal?
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ntayler
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Is it drilled already? How many holes? 2 overflows or 1?
If 2 overflows, with 2 holes each (made for 1" bulkheads)....make a full siphon drain on each side, controlled with 1.5" gate valves, and 1.25" piping. The full siphon pipe coming up into your overflow should be about 2/3 - 3/4 of the way to the top. just a 1.25" straight pipe reduced to 1" only where it fits into the bulkhead on the overflow side....I dry fit mine, no glue on either the overflow or under tank side of the bulkhead, in case the plumbing needs to be removed later.
Your second hole in each overflow will be purely an "emergency" pipe, that will extend all the way up to at or just below the water line as it pours into the overflow through the weir. No valves, no restrictions on the "emergency" drain, just 1.25" pipe all the way to sump.
The gate valve on your full siphon drain is what controls the water level inside the overflow. You want to adjust it so that the water level is just at or baaaaaaarely cresting the "emergency" drain inside your overflow.
Result is dead silence. It's kind of hard to explain with out pics. Let me know if you have any questions
If 2 overflows, with 2 holes each (made for 1" bulkheads)....make a full siphon drain on each side, controlled with 1.5" gate valves, and 1.25" piping. The full siphon pipe coming up into your overflow should be about 2/3 - 3/4 of the way to the top. just a 1.25" straight pipe reduced to 1" only where it fits into the bulkhead on the overflow side....I dry fit mine, no glue on either the overflow or under tank side of the bulkhead, in case the plumbing needs to be removed later.
Your second hole in each overflow will be purely an "emergency" pipe, that will extend all the way up to at or just below the water line as it pours into the overflow through the weir. No valves, no restrictions on the "emergency" drain, just 1.25" pipe all the way to sump.
The gate valve on your full siphon drain is what controls the water level inside the overflow. You want to adjust it so that the water level is just at or baaaaaaarely cresting the "emergency" drain inside your overflow.
Result is dead silence. It's kind of hard to explain with out pics. Let me know if you have any questions
http://www.beananimal.com/projects/silent-and-fail-safe-aquarium-overflow-system.aspx
you don't need the stand pipes like he has though.
basically it's this... one inlet pipe is really low and is running at a full siphon (as this will quickly drain your overflow box you control it with a GATE VALVE not a simply ball valve.
as you decrease the flow by closing the gate valve the water will slowly rise.. and fall into the second pipe. as long as the flow is minimal into the second pipe it will be silent.
If you have two overflows the best way is to connect then together. trying to balance them with individual valves would be tedious at best.
you don't need the stand pipes like he has though.
basically it's this... one inlet pipe is really low and is running at a full siphon (as this will quickly drain your overflow box you control it with a GATE VALVE not a simply ball valve.
as you decrease the flow by closing the gate valve the water will slowly rise.. and fall into the second pipe. as long as the flow is minimal into the second pipe it will be silent.
If you have two overflows the best way is to connect then together. trying to balance them with individual valves would be tedious at best.
ntayler
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I have 2 overflow boxes and run the full siphons independently (gate valve on each). They are basically set it and forget it, I don't need to adjust them ever once at proper placement.
For you jake, with the 3 holes, I would personally make 2 of them the lower, full siphons as explained above and then join them underneath to one gate valve. maybe upsize the valve and the pipe coming out of the valve to 1.5" if you are planning a lot of volume going through the sump.
Just my thoughts, good luck! Post a pic when you're done! I love laying pipe....am I allowed to say that?
For you jake, with the 3 holes, I would personally make 2 of them the lower, full siphons as explained above and then join them underneath to one gate valve. maybe upsize the valve and the pipe coming out of the valve to 1.5" if you are planning a lot of volume going through the sump.
Just my thoughts, good luck! Post a pic when you're done! I love laying pipe....am I allowed to say that?
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Jakepen
Few beers and I'll frag anything...
Yeah I'll be running 1.5" pipe to the sump, and already have my sears gate valve. You think I should connect both siphons to one pvc? If I don't, and run the seperate will I need two valves?
JoshH
Tank Status: Wet...ish, growing things....
I wouldn't join the two drains to one it defeats the redundancy of the bean animal set up. One full siphon with the gate valve, adjusted so barely any water drains down the secondary drain which can go full siphon if the primary one gets clogged (with no gate valve on it) and then the emergency as a second back up. And it can be fun once you get the hang of it
mckinleyw
AIRBORNE REEFER
PRETTY MUCH CAN BE ARRANGED ANY WAY U WANT BUT 1 IS MAIN LINE 1 IS SECONDARY WITH JUST A TRICKLE GOING THROUGH AND THEN EMERGENCY LINE.Left or right main siphon and secondary drain, centre would be your emergency drain (just a straight pipe).
JoshH
Tank Status: Wet...ish, growing things....
They won't fit? Looks like they should... If not you can always trim the elbows shorter, you will still get a solid glue joint even with a shorter elbow. any internal dimensions to go off of? Mainly the room from either side of the outside bulkheads to the sides of the box as well as the depth from bottom of the box to the bottom of the overflow weir.
