How is your Red Sea stand holding up?

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Hello

I am thinking of buying a Red Sea 425xl. I would like to know how is your stand holding up after 2 years or longer? Any rusting or warping? Any tips to keeping it looking good.

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just under 1 year, hinges showing rust but still quiet. No warping or bubbling from what I see
 
Have a S-650 that has been up and running for 18 months, no rust or bubbling of any kind. Still looks new.
 
525 for less than a year, looks great
170C for several years, bought used. The hinges were rusted and still work just fine, no other issues even thought there was previous damage to the stand (they must have hit it at the bottom back)
 
So it looks like the hinges tend to rust. I guess it would be good to keep them silicone or lubed up, being careful of course. You don't want the spray or lube to go in the sump.
 
So it looks like the hinges tend to rust. I guess it would be good to keep them silicone or lubed up, being careful of course. You don't want the spray or lube to go in the sump.
I do have another stand for a bow front tank that is NOT red sea. The doors don't fit right, the particle board around them is wearing so they will never fit right, the braces have come out, etc. Cheap crap. I will have to replace it at some point.

I think with the red sea stands, if you can keep them relatively dry, (I spill a bunch and its fine) they are very heavy and well built. I say dry because the 170 stand i got used looks like there is some damage at the bottom inside from flooding, but I have never had any issues with it. It is still very sturdy and straight.

I prefer the construction of the S 650 (I have not had one) because its aluminum frame with panels. The reefer is heavy duty and well coated particle board. It comes with some rubber gaskets for where there are pre-drilled holes for construction. Surprisingly not for every hole, but also designed that there is no exposed particle board near the sump. I would be very cautious to drill it though, as moisture in the particle board could be problematic. The stand, sump, and tank on the reefer 525 is exceptional quality. The plumbing is OK, could have a better gate valve. The ATO is garbage.

The doors have stayed perfectly straight for almost a year, proving that the stand is not warping. The stand did settle a bit once water was placed in the tank, but has stayed there since.

There is a rubber mat for under the sump and under the tank. There are feet on the stand so if you do spill it goes under the stand. I like this better since it can dry out, rather than keeping my wood floors wet. We made shelving for the dry side, since you get nothing there. (box construction, as not to drill the stand)

I'm now curious why you are asking about the stand.
Are you comparing brands, or just stands?
 
Hello spiraling just saw your build thread, very nice.
I wanted to make sure spending 2k it would hold up. No one talks about the stand durability. My previous tank I had a teak wood stand, never hand any issues. I cant use teak wood this time because wife's want a modern stand. This time I have to agree with her Red Sea looks sweet. Now you have me thinking of the 525 lol.

Thanks for the info.
 
Whole heartedly agree with @spiraling about the stand. Hinges are prone to rust, but the stand after two years is solid. Never ran the ATO, so can't comment on that, but it seemed to be a waste of space for me because of the capacity and lack of technology. I lose a gallon a day to evaporation so I would be filling it up 3 times a week if I were using it. To say that the plumbing is okay may be a stretch though. I think the plumbing is absolute junk. I don't know if it is because I use a dc return pump that have minor variations in output or what, but if the overflow gets slightly high it severely gurgles and throws water over the backside of the sump. Just this morning I had this issue again. The result is that water slowly creeps through the foam padding under the sump and eventually leaks out on to the floor. I don't know if anyone has replumbed a reefer, but I would do it today if I had some feedback. Maybe @Broadfield has tried?
 
Whole heartedly agree with @spiraling about the stand. Hinges are prone to rust, but the stand after two years is solid. Never ran the ATO, so can't comment on that, but it seemed to be a waste of space for me because of the capacity and lack of technology. I lose a gallon a day to evaporation so I would be filling it up 3 times a week if I were using it. To say that the plumbing is okay may be a stretch though. I think the plumbing is absolute junk. I don't know if it is because I use a dc return pump that have minor variations in output or what, but if the overflow gets slightly high it severely gurgles and throws water over the backside of the sump. Just this morning I had this issue again. The result is that water slowly creeps through the foam padding under the sump and eventually leaks out on to the floor. I don't know if anyone has replumbed a reefer, but I would do it today if I had some feedback. Maybe @Broadfield has tried?


Wow, I do use a DC pump (vectra m1) and i do occasionally hear the gurgle you talk about. I have never had the issue of water over the sump. There are several who get the piping like on the intake, then take the pieces off an input on a more reliable gate valve.
 
Wow, I do use a DC pump (vectra m1) and i do occasionally hear the gurgle you talk about. I have never had the issue of water over the sump. There are several who get the piping like on the intake, then take the pieces off an input on a more reliable gate valve.
I just want to replumb the whole thing at this point. My 90 and 55 gals were,diy and never once had an issue even with a jebao D.C. running them. I'm tired of having to frequently adjust the level of my overflow. @Sabellafella ? I know you have a reefer. Do you have plumbing headaches or is it just me? I run a Waveline DC10000.
 
I just want to replumb the whole thing at this point. My 90 and 55 gals were,diy and never once had an issue even with a jebao D.C. running them. I'm tired of having to frequently adjust the level of my overflow. @Sabellafella ? I know you have a reefer. Do you have plumbing headaches or is it just me? I run a Waveline DC10000.
I have bubble algae and snails that are constantly breeding. So its alot worse then you think of lol! I know what your talking about though, tinkering every week with the nob got frustrating after a while
 
I have my XL525 setup for 6 months and I thought it was me and didn't know how to adjust the overflow. I noticed that the speed of the power heads make it gurgle and the settings are very sensitive . Its not the worse thing in the world but it is annoying because I think something is wrong with the tank. BTW at six months the stand and hinges look great.
 
Just replace the Red Sea diaphragm valve with a gate valve... this will prevent the need for constant adjustment. I NEVER adjust mine, ever. You will need to purchase a Red Sea barbed return assembly, then remove the threaded barb fitting from the assembly. Replace the barb fitting with a 3/4" MPT x 1" Slip... then add some 1" pipe and a 1" gate valve.
 
I think it's water resistant MDF. The doors are a bit light so probably some other type. I just got my reefer 250... seems decent and great for the price.
 
The stand and doors are constructed of MDF. So it's a denser/heavier material than particle board. However, like particle board, it's not water resistant. But the coating that Red Sea uses is a pretty crazy epoxy based coating. So the stand is going to last an awful long time.
 

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