How long until you achieved consistent success?

Strictly speaking the products of photosynthesis are glucose, water and oxygen. The photosynthetic process takes carbon dioxide and water and uses the photons of light to fix the carbon and create the glucose.

Glucose is the then the "food" that allows other processes to take place. It is broken down by a process called glycolysis and then subsequently broken down further in the Krebs cycle. Both of theses processes create ATP which is the high energy compound that makes everything work. ATP has three phosphates in its structure and these are considered high energy chemical bonds. By splitting off a phosphate energy is release which is then used for other metabolic processes.

Essentially think of ATP as the money driving the economy. You need glucose to generate ATP via glycolysis, krebs cycle, and the electron transport chain. There are some other important things generated as well like NADH, etc but I won't make this more complicated.

The ATP, along with other things like the NADH are then used to create other important compounds via a variety of synthetic processes. These include generation of amino acids, lipids, and other more complex carbohydrates. In addition to metabolically creating these substances, some can be obtained by "food " intake. Proteins, fats, and complex carbohydrates are the actual food. They are then broken down to more simple amino acids, fatty acids, and glucose.

So you can see that intake of food provides energy, but in addition in plant and photosynthetic systems, the glucose can be generated by harnessing the suns energy as photons to fixate the carbon and create glucose.

It all plays together....I used to have chart that filled a wall and had all the metabolic processes laid out (was useful when studying biochemistry)- staring at it would boggle the mind!

Hope this helps and hasn't confused the issue further.

You, my friend, just took me back to my college days hahah! I too have seen the chart ha! I take it you have a bio degree? I have a degree in biology!

Oh wait, now i see, your a dr. Makes sense!
 
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You, my friend, just took me back to my college days hahah! I too have seen the chart ha! I take it you have a bio degree? I have a degree in biology!

Oh wait, now i see, your a dr. Makes sense!

HA HA !! Yep bio 101 days huh? I was actually a biochemistry major ... oh the hours spent memorizing all these pathways...just nuts!
Cheers
 
You are talking to a doctor...neurosurgeon I may add...how cool is that:)

Thanks lol! No cooler than any other profession. What’s cool is all the science behind everything. Just think about what’s going on in our little glass boxes of ocean....just awesome.
 
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Thanks lol! No cooler than any other profession. What’s cool is all the science behind everything. Just think about what’s going on in our little glass boxes of ocean....just awesome.
Since you guys are waaaaaaay smarter than I am, I wonder if y’all can answer a question that’s been swirling around in my head. There is a lot of discussion about zero, detectable, surplus etc no3/po4, but none of our test kits require a conversion for the total volume of water. So my question is is there more available no3/po4 at 2.0 and 0.05 in a 300 gallon system than there is 50 gallon system? Could smaller tanks need more nutrients because of the limited amount of water volume? Sorry if this is supposed to be elementary reef knowledge but I’ve never seen it addressed.
 
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HA HA !! Yep bio 101 days huh? I was actually a biochemistry major ... oh the hours spent memorizing all these pathways...just nuts!
Cheers

Haha pleased to meet you! My father is actually a ENT and i always wanted to follow in his footsteps! I got the bio degree and all the pre rec classes but never took the mcat. I guess you could say i got scared haha! Now im about to be 30 and am considering grad school! Who knows! Either way got to love how these tanks bring us all together!
 
Since you guys are waaaaaaay smarter than I am, I wonder if y’all can answer a question that’s been swirling around in my head. There is a lot of discussion about zero, detectable, surplus etc no3/po4, but none of our test kits require a conversion for the total volume of water. So my question is is there more available no3/po4 at 2.0 and 0.05 in a 300 gallon system than there is 50 gallon system? Could smaller tanks need more nutrients because of the limited amount of water volume? Sorry if this is supposed to be elementary reef knowledge but I’ve never seen it addressed.

PPM is just a form of percentage... it would be the same percent in a 50 or a 300...
 
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I would baseline like this...

NSW is just NSW or normal for our coral...NSW can vary from different places, but this is the SPS forum and most acropora reefs are about .005-.01P and .1N.
Ultra Low is below NSW
High is above NSW

It is easier to just post them number and not group them into categories.
 
Since you guys are waaaaaaay smarter than I am, I wonder if y’all can answer a question that’s been swirling around in my head. There is a lot of discussion about zero, detectable, surplus etc no3/po4, but none of our test kits require a conversion for the total volume of water. So my question is is there more available no3/po4 at 2.0 and 0.05 in a 300 gallon system than there is 50 gallon system? Could smaller tanks need more nutrients because of the limited amount of water volume? Sorry if this is supposed to be elementary reef knowledge but I’ve never seen it addressed.

My other response was not complete. Think of it this way. You have a formula for yogurt right? It has 5% starch in it. Now, the plant makes a 500 gal batch and a 1000 gal batch. When its packaged into cups for people to buy, the finished product is still 5% starch, wether it was from the 1000 gal batch or the 500 gal batch. Well ppm is the same concept. Its concentration...

Maybe some of you can guess what i do for a living haha?
 
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It took me 3 years, learning and making mistakes.
This is also cause I like experimenting and went through multiple reefing methods before I settled on my current methods.

Exactly my path as well. Went through a lot of experiments due to following the latest trends. Now I am settled down on one method and built my system after thinking through and now everything is finally growing.
 
Exactly my path as well. Went through a lot of experiments due to following the latest trends. Now I am settled down on one method and built my system after thinking through and now everything is finally growing.
part of the fun is the journey:)).
 
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Thanks for this post!!! it has me rethinking my whole system i'm building and i learned a little bit more!!!
 
Trial and error often lead us to success when it comes to corals. I did all the right things, at least I thought so. I was " The acro Killer".
I quit adding a bunch of chemicals based on usage by others and decreased white and increased Blue lighting, stepped up the quality of blue lights, Payed attention to alk and adjusted water flow to Moderate and . . . I have Live acros.
 
I think I'm at or near success after 1 1/2 years. It would have been sooner I think if I realized the balance of nutrient level, alk, and light My nutrients, esp Phos for some reason are low. And I used to keep my alk over 8 dkh.. closer to 9-10, higher the better, right? I first reaixed that higher alk with my situation was killing my acros and other sps, and I also realized that the low nutrients seem to make the sps more light sensitive (I think!). Then I realzed that even when I thought I had alk 7.2-7.8 (any higher for my tank is dangerous) it was acually not that often because the test kit would be wrong. Once I got that figured out, now I think I can say I have success. I had to figure out few other things like my odd tap water. But 1+ years after setting up this new tank from base rock, no live rock, no live sand. Other than Life Rock from carib sea.
 
Maybe I'm slow, or just haven't Googled the right thing... Can y'all say more about this, "Balance between nutrients, alk, and light?"
 

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