I heard a new ORA coral has been released!!!

[reefboy]

FWIW......there are 2 pink jade frags sitting in our LFS for almost 2 weeks or more. they look ok, but not for $70-$100. (i think they are for $90/each).

if they were like $50...i may get one. but for anything over $70 its gotta be special.....would rather get a similar species coral like pink jade or aquadelight for that kind of price tag.

these ORA prices are just getting insane.......i have been a big fan of ORA corals in the past, but i think i'm gonna boycott them for now on. they are getting too greedy in pricing their corals.

Actualy there prices havnt really changed I remeber the tort costing the same when it was first released I'd check who your buying from before boycotting ORA goods as they may be the one's that need boycotting just my two cents and times change and as do bills but if they've gone up much its only a few dollars a frag.

 

[reefboy]

Actualy the only thing I see on there list that is a tad over priced would be there sea pony's but I had to get a pair of yellow Hippocampus Comes

 

[surfn]

Actualy the only thing I see on there list that is a tad over priced would be there sea pony's but I had to get a pair of yellow Hippocampus Comes

how does their pricing of this years frags (granulosa, deepwater, echinata, pearlberry), compare to their pricing of newly released frags last year? like the roscoes and german blue polyp acro?

i remember buying those last year for no more than $40-$50 which i think is a good price.

 

[twon8]

that is what i paid for the pearlberry a week ago, 50

 

[twon8]

Actualy there prices havnt really changed I remeber the tort costing the same when it was first released I'd check who your buying from before boycotting ORA goods as they may be the one's that need boycotting just my two cents and times change and as do bills but if they've gone up much its only a few dollars a frag.

i agree with this, i've seen some ora frags lately for 30 or less,

 

[twon8]

how does their pricing of this years frags (granulosa, deepwater, echinata, pearlberry), compare to their pricing of newly released frags last year? like the roscoes and german blue polyp acro?

i remember buying those last year for no more than $40-$50 which i think is a good price.

wait, I thought you never got the roscoes?

 

[shred5]

Actualy there prices havnt really changed I remeber the tort costing the same when it was first released I'd check who your buying from before boycotting ORA goods as they may be the one's that need boycotting just my two cents and times change and as do bills but if they've gone up much its only a few dollars a frag.

I used to remember paying around 40 dollars a frag for an ora coral and sometimes less or a little more if from a lfs. The prices are up but you are right the prices may not have gone up from ora it could just be the retailers jacking up the prices due to the popularity.


Dave

 

[twon8]

I used to remember paying around 40 dollars a frag for an ora coral and sometimes less or a little more if from a lfs. The prices are up but you are right the prices may not have gone up from ora it could just be the retailers jacking up the prices due to the popularity.


Dave

fedex overnight costs have gone up, which is how ora distributes their corals, so that may be part of it. quite a few of the club-zoa sponsers are selling ora corals for 30 a frag.

 

[reefboy]

how does their pricing of this years frags (granulosa, deepwater, echinata, pearlberry), compare to their pricing of newly released frags last year? like the roscoes and german blue polyp acro?

i remember buying those last year for no more than $40-$50 which i think is a good price.

Well the german is priced the same as the new ones are wholesale wise but they dont have any avaible to compare as to this year im going of last years price evendently it didnt like a move they did so set back there frag population on the german blue polyped acro anyways all im saying is there prices havnt changed much so I think blame can be elseware and shipping is still about the same too, no box charge if you spend over 500 and 50.00 a box shipped overnight Fedex.

 

[gooch Verified Sponsor]

Not speaking ora but coral prices have gotten much higher in general. I was looking at an old price list from a vendor I used when I had my shop. Now I am helping set up a new store in town and get a couple different wholesale lists. At least from this wholesaler prices have gone up a bit.

As for the prices going up on the retail end. I think they are up almost everywhere and at just about every store. If you ask a lot of the stores I would bet they are all selling less than what they were years ago. Lack of volume leads to price increases to cover costs. There are so many hobbyist farmers and so many more vendors out there in comparison to only three years ago. The pie is so much smaller. And a lot more wholesalers are turning into coral farmers themselves, some selling even smaller corals they aquaculture for twice the cost of a wild colony. And these are just fragments. They pick from the best of what comes into the country before you me and the LFS or online business even gets a chance at them. While I am all for aquaculture and will always prefer an aquacultured coral over a wild one not every hobbyist feels the same way.

So when a store gets something in that they know will sell easily they raise the price to compensate for all the corals that sit in tanks not selling. I have always said a crappy looking $20 coral almost always costs more for a store to keep than a $30 colorful coral does. Even if that crappy coral retails for $25 to just get it out it will probably still sit in the shop/store longer than the $30 coral retail priced at $90.

What wholesalers and collectors should really do is invest the time to educate the $1.50 a day guy that is chipping the corals off the rocks to choose better specimens to begin with. If they stopped bringing in all the junk corals, focus on hardier colorful corals. Even if it raises the cost somewhat it is still going to be cheaper on the consumer. The retailer has a tank full of sellable corals and not just two or three that are sold usually the day they come in. The retailer can charge a lower cost(or not) and move the corals faster improving chances the coral survives and not having to rely on selling three or four high priced corals to cover the cost of the junk they get in the shipments. The hobby then gets better livestock to bring into aquaculture.

Hopefully someday I have enough money set aside where I can go to some of the collection sites and pay someone just to tag along for the experience. I know there is a ton I don't know about the collection process. But I would sure like to see a bunch of corals go from collection to the end user just once. It is hard to really criticize a process if you don't understand it fully. And I am sure I could learn from it. I still dream of having a huge coral farm under acres and acres of greenhouses where we culture our own rock, breed our own inverts and breed our fish in a semi natural environment. Anybody got $20,000,000 to invest in my dream?

 

[revhtree Verified Admin]

You can pay me to tag along for sure!

 

[surfn]

i agree with this, i've seen some ora frags lately for 30 or less,

so do you think ORA is charging our LFS more? or do you think its just the very high markup our LFS? b/c Marvin was saying at the last club meeting how ORA is charging them allot more for this years frags than from frags in hte past like last years german blue polyp.

 

[Rickyrooz]

They're probably charging more because they have a limited quantity. It's simple economics, supply and demand. I haven't seen any one website get more than three of each new ORA frag. Once ORA grows the mother frag colony out further there will be more available and the prices will go down. When the Roscoe's came out with was $79.99, now my it sells for $39.99 or less.

 

[143gadgets]

Last time I checked. The new releases were twice the price of the old ones.

 

[Rickyrooz]

LiveAquaria still sells the Roscoe's for $69.99, German Blue for $59.99 and they sell the Dustin's for $79.99.

 

[twon8]

so do you think ORA is charging our LFS more? or do you think its just the very high markup our LFS? b/c Marvin was saying at the last club meeting how ORA is charging them allot more for this years frags than from frags in hte past like last years german blue polyp.

I think Marvin has a decent mark up, he does have a large store with lots more overhead now. But everyone of his employees knows what the hobby well and knows what they are talking about. You are paying a bit more, but getting one of the best lfs around.

my guess, and a complete guess, is that the main ora corals are 15, new releases 30, but they may be discounts based upon how many you buy and how many clownfish you get, etc.

 

[fragjunkie]

I got like $500 bucks to invest in your dream

 

[gooch Verified Sponsor]

I got like $500 bucks to invest in your dream

It's a start. You guys don't know how serious I am about this. Been thinking about it for years and years. My propagation and rock pools would be 20-40 feet deep. I already have divers and propagators. I would start small. Maybe 40 acres under water. I have the land picked out.

My sps mother reef would actually be a huge wave pool similar to what is at the water parks only much bigger. I am positive we could even enduce spawning events where we probably wouldn't even have to frag. Imagine all the possibilities.

Come on only $19,999,500 to go.

Sorry I hijacked the thread. I'll stop now.

 

[msman825]

anyone in Tx, here's a nice frag for yah http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1327375

 

[gflat65]

Last time I checked. The new releases were twice the price of the old ones.

Yup. And their prices really aren't too bad.