Ich??

[miyags]

There are steps to take that will bring their immune systems up again.
Ya, what's that, garlic.

 

[rob safron]

I would need a couple of those trash cans for all the fish. And they will have to stay in those cans with minimal filtration for 3 months. Plus after a week with this, how likely would they be to survive chasing down, ripping up rocks, losing corals and medication??

 

[4FordFamily]

No it’s not. Healthy fish live with it just fine until a stressor event. There are steps to take that will bring their immune systems up again. These fish are 4 years old so they must have been living a death sentence for quite a long time.

Yeah no, especially not that far along.

 

[flfireman1]

I would need a couple of those trash cans for all the fish. And they will have to stay in those cans with minimal filtration for 3 months. Plus after a week with this, how likely would they be to survive chasing down, ripping up rocks, losing corals and medication??

They would be more likely to survive chasing down, ripping up rocks than staying put.

 

[4FordFamily]

I would need a couple of those trash cans for all the fish. And they will have to stay in those cans with minimal filtration for 3 months. Plus after a week with this, how likely would they be to survive chasing down, ripping up rocks, losing corals and medication??

Grab some dr tims bacteria in a bottle, a HOB filter, and some “sponge” media. Grab an ammonia alert badge by seachem as well.

Sorry I know this isn’t fun

 

[flfireman1]

No it’s not. Healthy fish live with it just fine until a stressor event. There are steps to take that will bring their immune systems up again. These fish are 4 years old so they must have been living a death sentence for quite a long time.

Wow, you really do know nothing.

 

[miyags]

Well some of the best fish people in the country, are trying to help you.They told you what needs done,and it needs done now.It sounds like you don't want to do anything to save your fish. Your replies are, any excuse to do nothing!!!

 

[Humblefish]

Probably the few corals that I did not dip.

Coral dips will not kill parasite tomonts.

Read this: https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/how-to-quarantine-coral-and-inverts.228/

 

[Crabs McJones]

+1 for velvet. I would listen to these guys, they are experts in this stuff and they've never steered me or any other user wrong.

It’s velvet: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/

Here is how to treat: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/#post-2499437

Contrary to popular belief, velvet can sometimes be managed or even become asymptomatic (rare). I’ve seen people with very large systems do it, running a UV/diatom filter, or even when using herbal remedies: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/a-discussion-regarding-herbal-remedies.251560/

The problem is it is a timebomb just waiting to go off, as we see from this thread.

@rob safron When was the last time “anything wet” was added to this tank? Corals/inverts, rocks, sand, macroalgae, pods?? Are you sure there is no way you cross contaminated from another tank? Do you have any other aquariums within 10 feet of this one?

This is DEFINITELY velvet and your fish need to all be removed immediately and treated in copper. Follow these instructions yesterday, or your fish are toast. Sorry, to be direct but even an hour could be too late.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/

 

[tangtime]

Wow, you really do know nothing.

Actually I know quite a lot. Do you know me, my profession, or experience with marine life?

 

[rob safron]

Have some water cooking. Look at Lowe’s for some containers and use my 20 for the smaller fish.

 

[tangtime]

Yeah no, especially not that far along.

Then please explain what has contributed to their long term successful life thus far? Not trying to derail we can take this debate to another thread if you like. I just want to know if velvet/ich is such the killer and so quick, then why have they lasted 4 years and now a week with visible protrusions? Velvet, in almost every severe case kills with 24-72 hrs.

What’s the difference here?

 

[rob safron]

Not to get into a debate myself but that’s why I questioned velvet. I had velvet years ago in a different system. Most everything died overnight and all within 1 week. Weird.

 

[flfireman1]

Then please explain what has contributed to their long term successful life thus far? Not trying to derail we can take this debate to another thread if you like. I just want to know if velvet/ich is such the killer and so quick, then why have they lasted 4 years and now a week with visible protrusions? Velvet, in almost every severe case kills with 24-72 hrs.

What’s the difference here?

You should likely read all the posts done by Humblefish. It’s called immunity. They develop it if affected by a mild case of the parasite or if they happen to survive the infestation. But this immunity lasts only upon the next stressor event. Such as the case with the OP. Or maybe it was just brought in on the corals as suggested.

Again try reading all of Humblefish posts instead of speeding misinformation.

 

[4FordFamily]

There’s no way a powder blue made it with velvet management. Something wet was added recently, as I’ve never heard of any acanthurus tang living with velvet but I have seen a hippo and a couple zebrasoma last awhile in known velvet. Ultimately and regardless, it’s a ticking time bomb either way.

 

[tangtime]

You should likely read all the posts done by Humblefish. It’s called immunity. They develop it if affected by a mild case of the parasite or if they happen to survive the infestation. But this immunity lasts only upon the next stressor event. Such as the case with the OP. Or maybe it was just brought in on the corals as suggested.

Again try reading all of Humblefish posts instead of speeding misinformation.

That’s what I said when I first posted here.... Reading is a fundamental skill in life.

You haven’t contributed anything to this thread and insist on personal attacks.

I’m done with you, Love the ignore button!

 

[tangtime]

Not to get into a debate myself but that’s why I questioned velvet. I had velvet years ago in a different system. Most everything died overnight and all within 1 week. Weird.

Ya, that’s what I’m pointing out.

I’ve have a issue like this once but it was certainly velvet as I lost 80% of fish.

I did a upgrade from someone else tank. I combined everything from my tank and his tank, then a few days later, fish death left and right due to upsetting the bio of both systems from creating a “mini cycle” by breaking down the larger system completely, moving it, setting it up, etc.

However, my tank was up for about a year and his tank several years, so the parasites were dormant.

 

[flfireman1]

You haven’t contributed anything to this thread and insist on personal attacks.

I’m done with you, Love the ignore button!

I’m pretty sure I was the first to respond to the OP and ID as velvet. Also advise on what to do. So the fundamental skill of reading was lost with you.

It’s better to ignore than to spread misinformation. The folks here at this forum have done an amazing job of bringing us very useful information and advise.

 

[Fallguy44]

That’s what I said when I first posted here.... Reading is a fundamental skill in life.

You haven’t contributed anything to this thread and insist on personal attacks.

I’m done with you, Love the ignore button!

His opinion is that you don't know anything and are spreading misinformation. Hardly a personal attack requiring the ignore button. But I'll bite since we don't know like you mentioned, what is your profession, or experience with marine life?

 

[flfireman1]

However, my tank was up for about a year and his tank several years, so the parasites were dormant.

[emoji85]. Oh boy.