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Is there anything to do without a QT tank?
Ick running wild
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Well assuming the worst, let’s say it is... is there anything I can do without a QT?
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Well it’s been a week and the tang is still eating and acting very normal so I’m not sure that it is
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With how quickly velvet can kill, I'd lean toward ich.
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Yeah it’s been atleast a week and he’s still acting very normal. Eating, swimming around...
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Feed healthy food often with selcon and garlic, like mentioned earlier. Don't think there is much else you can do while fish are in the reef.
An oversized UV or diatom filter (pool grade) or oxydator might be able to manage it for awhile, but the odds are not on your side. Those tools will keep the number of free swimmers low, while you try to help the fish acquire immunity/resistance by feeding vitamin enriched foods.
^^ The above is not for the faint of heart, and does not have a high success rate. Going fallow, treating with copper in a QT, etc. is the more repeatable method.
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They aren’t swimming into the flow of the powerhead... I’m attaching an image from the internet of what mine looks similar to... just not all over the body like this. It’s more on fins and on its head.
^^ That photo shows a fish with velvet: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/velvet-amyloodinium-ocellatum.217570/
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Well that’s not good... guess there’s not much to do but hope. I have a UV sterilize. Not sure what else to do. Thanks for the help
Assuming its ich it's really not as big a deal as some make it out to be. I dont quarantine, get my fish from 1 lfs and when I add a fish which isn't very often it just drop and plop. I see a couple spots when I introduce a new fish but they clear up within a week. I've been doing this forever and quarantine is not in my vocabulary. I guess it comes down to experience and how to deal with it. I've lost 1 fish in the last 5 years and that was due to it being beat up and not disease. Ich is very overrated as far as killing fish. I see more people losing fish on this forum while they have there fish in a small quarantine tank not suited for multiple fish and dying from the meds and not so ideal water quality that I've lost in 30+ years of having saltwater aquariums. If those same people would have drop them straight into there display the majority would have probably just been fine. Quarantining fish is definently not a cure all for most. ****** water quality, cramped quarters, overdosing meds is a recipe for the fish to die while in quarantine. But it seems to make people fell better as the think the are doing what right for the fish but in reality they are adding them to a toxic environment contributing to their premature death. I will continue in the future to drop and plop so long as I'm alive.
I have a very high success rate so it is possible.
I've done both, and I find QT to be more consistently reliable. There are too many unknowns when it comes to disease management. Most of us who quarantine are on the same page and our routine is easily repeatable. Those who plop and drop will tell you to feed garlic, ginger, live foods, fish oil; utilize a UV, diatom, oxydator, ozone... Which of those methods should a newbie follow?
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Trust me I’m going to get a QT and use it moving forward... however as of now... just gonna prayI've done both, and I find QT to be more consistently reliable. There are too many unknowns when it comes to disease management. Most of us who quarantine are on the same page and our routine is easily repeatable. Those who plop and drop will tell you to feed garlic, ginger, live foods, fish oil; utilize a UV, diatom, oxydator, ozone... Which of those methods should a newbie follow?
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Random question but why don’t you fill your QTs all the way to the top with water?
