ID: Cyano, Dinos, Other?

[Crued]

Ok people, here it is. Lots of life in here, but I sure don't know what it is. I believe the bulk of the material though is non-dinos. The question is what is all this other crap!!! I haven't been around a microscope in 20 years and failed chemistry, don't even know what magnification this is, so please excuse my ignorance there. Enjoy.

http://1drv.ms/1V2e8nj

 

[Crued]

Josh at Chicago Reefs came up with first id of the roughly 6+ organisms. cylindrothecia diatoms.

http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/hidden...12/dbweep-061203-04-stream1-nikolymp-507s.jpg

 

[adestafi]

When I had cyano, I used Chemi clean, phosphagen and water changes.... I also halved my lighting schedule.

 

[Diesel]

For sure they aren't cyanoBac's then!
More like a form of Diatoms.
Never heard of this and I bet majority of ppl here.
I'll tag @melev in here maybe he has an idea on treatment method.

 

[Crued]

The first dino speculation. Ostreopsis. I certainly have some organism that spins around and around, but my magnification isn't enough to see the organism's structure. Also, when I have seen them (you can see a few in the video), they are not rampant like the cultures on youtube. I will try to crank up magnification and get new video.

 

[Crued]

Update: I've allowed the brown/green algae to grow on my glass. The problem spots of this mixed nightmare diadincynos are definitely diminishing; albeit slowly. Snails are leaving crazy amounts of trails on the glass, so they are happy also. Last night I added a bag of pods from Algae Barn, and have 3 more bags I'm going to add over the next 2 weeks.

 

[SunnyX]

Hello,

Are you by any chance dosing carbon? I know that some carbon dosers would experience a red "cotton" like cyano growth when carbon had reached a saturation point. I myself experienced the same and was able to combat it with a combination of ZeoZyme and Zeo Coral Snow.

Take a small maxi jet or similar powerhead and blow off the rock. Youll want to be running a filter sock to collect the blown off cyano. Afterwards I would add the Zeozyme and Zeo Coral Snow per instructions. Within about a week I would be clear of the issue.

Even if youre not carbon dosing this cotton like cyano can still rear its ugly head, but its much more prevalent in carbon dosed systems. Thankfully you do not have dino's. Ive dealt with dino's many times and it is a pain.

I would avoid Chemiclean altogether as it may work now but the cyano will eventually build up an immunity towards it.

Good luck.

 

[bairdimusprime]

wow this is some thread... why not add a good cleanup crew, cut back on the feedings and a few good water changes.... always worked for me

 

[bairdimusprime]

I would swear its cyano. But I can't believe the chemi didn't kill it.

it doesnt always work, there could be so many nutrients built up in his sand bed that he may have to remove the whole bed.
i had to do this once. removed all the sand replaced it with crushed coral never had a cyano problem again...

 

[Crued]

So.... I'm updating this thread after all this time... I basically ignored all the dino-scare and went forward as this was cyano. I let it go untreated for about 2 months or even more after this thread ended and nothing ever improved; things got worse (but I didn't take pictures like an idiot). After seeing the thread about peroxide treatment of cyano (I'm sorry, I cannot find that thread, it got closed and nobody posts in it any longer), I decided I would give it a go. I started with 40ml of 3% peroxide (my total water volume is somewhere between 4-450 gal). After doing it 3 days in a row, I noticed that the cyano was in fact getting knocked back, my SPS started looking even better, and no ill effects on fish and other corals where noticed. I upped the dosage to 50ml after those first 3 treatments and dosed just about every day. I dosed at night sometimes, and in the mornings other times (because I'm a true scientist and adding variables is a good thing /sarcasm). Over the course of the months, I noticed that the cyano would knock back and then stall a bit so I developed a rotation and upped the dosage. 60ml every morning for 10 days, water change at 14th day (about 15%) and then repeat the cycle. This showed excellent improvement and I'm very happy to say that my cyano is completely gone as of 2 weeks ago. Yes, I do have other variables that changed in the tank, but I will, beyond anecdotally, say that peroxide did solve my cyano problem.

 

[JustinMN18]

I see what you mean on top left. But still looks nothing like the dinos I had. Not stringy enough and all my strings were topped by balloons or bubbles. And the thickness that Is covering the rock is way thicker than mine ever got. If it wasn't for the bubbles caught in the slime I would be completly against dino. But maybe

How did you handle those? I have bubbles basically floating and being held by a string. Almost totally disappears at night, and then bubbles are released later in the lighting cycle.