Ilona's reef shop scammed for 60K, now broke.

[SchrutesReefs]

Smells fishy to me.

 

[MaxTremors]

Smells like low tide in a Dutch canal

Lol. I lived in Amsterdam for a while when I was younger, and the canals are just disgusting, like I’m surprised that the people who fall in (happens more than you’d think) don’t just immediately dissolve. At the zoo there they have a big aquarium exhibit of a canal, there’s an old car, a bunch of garbage, a couple guns I think, and some carp in it (maybe a few other species). I wonder if in their pursuit of simulating a realistic canal they maintain a certain level of human urine in it?

But yeah, there’s definitely something fishy about this story.

 

[Rene']

Why doesn't her insurance cover the loss by theft?

Insurance doesn't cover loss through scams. The company would be covered if someone broke in and stole the corals, but being too trusting isn't covered in your policy

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Things may very well be different in the Netherlands, but in the US, no one insures an individual for coral (or fish) losses. Your renters/homeowners insurance will cover the loss of/damage to a tank, stand, equipment, etc, and water damage to your home from a tank incident, but livestock isn't covered any more than other pets would be.
So, I think the store owner may have a case against her insurance guy for leading her to believe this would ever be paid...

 

[Lavey29]

Things may very well be different in the Netherlands, but in the US, no one insures an individual for coral (or fish) losses. Your renters/homeowners insurance will cover the loss of/damage to a tank, stand, equipment, etc, and water damage to your home from a tank incident, but livestock isn't covered any more than other pets would be.
So, I think the store owner may have a case against her insurance guy for leading her to believe this would ever be paid...

My dog has medical insurance so live stock can be insured. Just depends on the policy and what you want included but theft of merchandise certainly is covered.

 

[Lavey29]

Insurance doesn't cover loss through scams. The company would be covered if someone broke in and stole the corals, but being too trusting isn't covered in your policy

Sure it does if it's included in your policy. Theft is theft whether break in or scam its still a theft. One is burglary and the other fraud.

But for instance some people only have liability insurance for their car so if it gets stolen they aren't covered but if they crash into someone they are covered. Just depends on the policy coverage you choose.

 

[Sean Clark]

Let's assume for a moment that all of this story is true and played out as it has been portrayed. What business owner would ship out 60k of unsecured product? Add to that that doing so would put them in a position of finical parrel. None of this adds up to anything that a normal person would do. I call mackerel.

 

[Lavey29]

Let's assume for a moment that all of this story is true and played out as it has been portrayed. What business owner would ship out 60k of unsecured product? Add to that that doing so would put them in a position of finical parrel. None of this adds up to anything that a normal person would do. I call mackerel.

My coral vendor buys 150k worth of coral at a time from his supplier. But I do agree with your assessment.

 

[Sean Clark]

My coral vendor buys 150k worth of coral at a time from his supplier.

And I'll presume they are not closing their doors due to its financial impact. This is not about the amount of money. This is about store x is no more because of y.

 

[polyppal]

Let's assume for a moment that all of this story is true and played out as it has been portrayed. What business owner would ship out 60k of unsecured product? Add to that that doing so would put them in a position of finical parrel. None of this adds up to anything that a normal person would do. I call mackerel.

Stinky mackerel at that!
aaaah… the old 60k in corals trick.


Ilona and her staff

 

[Harold999]

Here the story on a Belgium reef news site:

Ilona's Reef opgelicht: "Ik ben alles kwijt" - Zeewaternieuws

83.550 Euro en 55 Eurocent. Dat is de som van alle facturen die Ilona Trompert, zaakvoerster van Ilona’s Reef, opstelde voor een oplichtster. De zaak begon negen maanden geleden al, maar nu pas komt Trompert er mee naar buiten in een emotionele oproep op sociale media. Rechtzetting: Trompert...

www.zeewaternieuws.be

Google translate link:

Ilona's Reef opgelicht: "Ik ben alles kwijt" - Zeewaternieuws

83.550 Euro en 55 Eurocent. Dat is de som van alle facturen die Ilona Trompert, zaakvoerster van Ilona’s Reef, opstelde voor een oplichtster. De zaak begon negen maanden geleden al, maar nu pas komt Trompert er mee naar buiten in een emotionele oproep op sociale media. Rechtzetting: Trompert...

www-zeewaternieuws-be.translate.goog

Should make a correction to the OP (but i can't), it were several orders over a longer timeframe, not one.

 

[Rene']

Let's assume for a moment that all of this story is true and played out as it has been portrayed. What business owner would ship out 60k of unsecured product? Add to that that doing so would put them in a position of finical parrel. None of this adds up to anything that a normal person would do. I call mackerel.

Yes, definitely fishy!

 

[Rene']

Stinky mackerel at that!
aaaah… the old 60k in corals trick.


Ilona and her staff

Hahahaha

 

[Crabby48]

Sounds like they were Desperate for money from the start to ship before payment or even setting up payment with the insurance company.

 

[ZoWhat]

This would be like advertising you have a $100k Ferrari for sale and anyone who want to test drive it, just come over, the keys are sitting on the driver's seat

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

Where is the news article for this story?
Personally I don't believe it, its not logical, no business person would do that. Without the full article to explain all the details, its fake news IMO.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Where is the news article for this story?
Personally I don't believe it, its not logical, no business person would do that. Without the full article to explain all the details, its fake news IMO.

Right here

Here the story on a Belgium reef news site:

Ilona's Reef opgelicht: "Ik ben alles kwijt" - Zeewaternieuws

83.550 Euro en 55 Eurocent. Dat is de som van alle facturen die Ilona Trompert, zaakvoerster van Ilona’s Reef, opstelde voor een oplichtster. De zaak begon negen maanden geleden al, maar nu pas komt Trompert er mee naar buiten in een emotionele oproep op sociale media. Rechtzetting: Trompert...

www.zeewaternieuws.be

Google translate link:

Ilona's Reef opgelicht: "Ik ben alles kwijt" - Zeewaternieuws

83.550 Euro en 55 Eurocent. Dat is de som van alle facturen die Ilona Trompert, zaakvoerster van Ilona’s Reef, opstelde voor een oplichtster. De zaak begon negen maanden geleden al, maar nu pas komt Trompert er mee naar buiten in een emotionele oproep op sociale media. Rechtzetting: Trompert...

www-zeewaternieuws-be.translate.goog

Should make a correction to the OP (but i can't), it were several orders over a longer timeframe, not one.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

My dog has medical insurance so live stock can be insured. Just depends on the policy and what you want included but theft of merchandise certainly is covered.

Medical insurance but not life insurance. Livestock is not insured against death.

 

[Harold999]

“I've lost everything. I had to get rid of my corals, my business, my hobby, even my aquariums because the city was no longer so keen on a business at my home.”

The latter is weird though. Because she was scammed the city suddenly didn't like her business at home anymore?

Or was it the other way around. The city wanted her to quit the business (at her home) and then she was scammed?

 

[Macdaddynick1]

Her customer when she asked for money.