Instant ways to kill ich and velvet

[Current Tides]

Would anyone happen to know ways that will immediately kill ich/velvet (c. irritans) and (a. ocellatum)? The tanks I'm trying to treat are completely empty, with no livestock. I have copper in them at concentrations of about 0.6ppm and have the temp all the way up to 95F. I've been trying to find articles or other sources of information online that would suggest the sudden elimination of these diseases, however I've been unsuccessful. Most of the literature I've found focuses on the expedition of the lifecycle with higher heat levels, but not much regarding sudden death. There was one site that mentioned ich was eliminated at a temp of 104F, in under an hour, however I couldn't find anything on this either. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much in advance!

 

[Lavey29]

76 days fallow

 

[polyppal]

if that 104 worked, it'd likely kill any bacteria and the tank would have to be re-cycled anyways. Why not just drain & dry then refill? You'll have to do a WC anyways to get the copper out

 

[HB AL]

Dump a full bottle of copper in and that will kill them off along with everything else in the tank.

 

[J_Gard88]

if that 104 worked, it'd likely kill any bacteria and the tank would have to be re-cycled anyways. Why not just drain & dry then refill? You'll have to do a WC anyways to get the copper out

I'm on board with this style of fix. Might as well just start from scratch at that point.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Some bad advice here. Best bet is fallow and at 45-55 days at 81 degrees.
Dont start bombing tank with high concentration of copper. Safe level is 2.25-2.5.
At 6 copper level- you might as well prepare to change sand UNLESS you are going fish only for the future.
What ever copper based product you use, assure it says " Treats Oodinum".

 

[Brady4000]

I don’t even think the copper would even come out of your LR or equipment with 10 x 100% WCs if you dumped the whole bottle in there.. lol I could be wrong.

 

[vetteguy53081]

76 days fallow

For well over a year, new industry standard for Fallow is 45 days

 

[J_Gard88]

if there's nothing in the tank but live rock, why not dry out and re start. Break tank down and dry the LR (Yes everything will die) but by the time you're banking on your fallow days you could be re building. Bet definitely agree not to bomb with copper.

 

[J_Gard88]

And when I say dry out, I mean place some good lighting with good air flow. I have used my 1000Watt HPS light from back in the days of another kind growing.

 

[Shooter6]

For well over a year, new industry standard for Fallow is 45 days

May want to research a bit more. Strains have been identified that have made it past 76 days so the newer recommendation is 90+. 45 is really gambling

 

[Shooter6]

I'm not sure I or others are following along with your current situation. You said you have copper in the tanks now? So plan on fish only? You want to kill off instantly without needing to recycle the systems?

If the cycle isn't an issue and no livestock in the systems, then I would drain them, refill with fresh water add chlorine at about 1 cup per 100gal, let sit for 24hrs.
Drain, then refill with fresh water. Let sit for 24hrs.
Add a full bottle of pond declorinator drom home depot to each. Leave for a week .drain refill with rodi, then after a few days test for chlorine. Add declorinator if needed. This should help with removing any copper traces too.

 

[MediocreAtEverything]

You guys are a lost cause.

 

[damsels are not mean]

Would anyone happen to know ways that will immediately kill ich/velvet (c. irritans) and (a. ocellatum)? The tanks I'm trying to treat are completely empty, with no livestock. I have copper in them at concentrations of about 0.6ppm and have the temp all the way up to 95F. I've been trying to find articles or other sources of information online that would suggest the sudden elimination of these diseases, however I've been unsuccessful. Most of the literature I've found focuses on the expedition of the lifecycle with higher heat levels, but not much regarding sudden death. There was one site that mentioned ich was eliminated at a temp of 104F, in under an hour, however I couldn't find anything on this either. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much in advance!

What is in the tank? Just water or rocks? Sand? Best instant fix is to drain the tank and let everything get totally dry. Easy if you just have a tank. More difficult with rocks.

 

[Shooter6]

You guys are a lost cause.

How do you figure? Op posted a vague post on the details of what they are trying to accomplish and current issues. I gave them a clear and concise solution based off the post. Chlorine will most definitely kill the parasites and attack the egg case too. That coupled with fresh water will kill any hatching tromites left over.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

May want to research a bit more. Strains have been identified that have made it past 76 days so the newer recommendation is 90+. 45 is really gambling

Those extreme cases have been written off as a problem with biosecurity.

Jay

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Would anyone happen to know ways that will immediately kill ich/velvet (c. irritans) and (a. ocellatum)? The tanks I'm trying to treat are completely empty, with no livestock. I have copper in them at concentrations of about 0.6ppm and have the temp all the way up to 95F. I've been trying to find articles or other sources of information online that would suggest the sudden elimination of these diseases, however I've been unsuccessful. Most of the literature I've found focuses on the expedition of the lifecycle with higher heat levels, but not much regarding sudden death. There was one site that mentioned ich was eliminated at a temp of 104F, in under an hour, however I couldn't find anything on this either. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much in advance!

Some non-workable advice here. You could go fallow as @vetteguy53081 said, but you wanted "fast". Since you've hit the tank with copper and heat, you might as well do a complete tank reset. Fill the tank with freshwater (I always drain and fill again to remove residual salt). Then, hit the tank with 100 ppm household bleach (no surfactants, dyes or perfumes though). You might be better off using some hot tub solid sterilizer. 100 ppm = gallons times 100 divided by 266 to give grams of material needed.
Let that circulate for 24 hours, drain, rinse and refill. Add some dechlor and then establish the biofilter again. Remember though - if you don't quarantine your fish well, the very first fish you add could put you right back at this point again.

Jay

 

[Brady4000]

Some non-workable advice here. You could go fallow as @vetteguy53081 said, but you wanted "fast". Since you've hit the tank with copper and heat, you might as well do a complete tank reset. Fill the tank with freshwater (I always drain and fill again to remove residual salt). Then, hit the tank with 100 ppm household bleach (no surfactants, dyes or perfumes though). You might be better off using some hot tub solid sterilizer. 100 ppm = gallons times 100 divided by 266 to give grams of material needed.
Let that circulate for 24 hours, drain, rinse and refill. Add some dechlor and then establish the biofilter again. Remember though - if you don't quarantine your fish well, the very first fish you add could put you right back at this point again.

Jay

Will this get rid of the copper? I am curious.

 

[BostonReefer300]

Bottle of Bleach in Reef Tank = Angry Ex-Girlfriend Goodbye Note

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

May want to research a bit more. Strains have been identified that have made it past 76 days so the newer recommendation is 90+. 45 is really gambling

Can you provide Your research to the matter?

That would probably be more helpful.