Introducing the Hydros Maven

[n2585722]

WOW... so its vapor tease ware until November?

So people saying they pulled this just so they can steal some light from neptune and the Trident NP was totally spot on.

Im sorry, its starting to make me respect coralvue less and less by doing this.

They have showed new projects like this before at the shows like RAP. In fact they had the original Hydros controllers at MACNA one year and it was a year latter before they were released for purchase. So this happens all the time if they have a working unit for the show why not show what they are working on for future release. I think from what I understand they still need to go through beta testing. That would mean they are just a few months away if everything goes as planned.

 

[DJ Mike Fury]

That seems high to me. Trident and Ion Director are both $600 range, and all GHL products are horribly overpriced.

Hydros is much cheaper as it’s an all in one tester as brain is built in…to do the same thing in apex would cost at least $1650 as you need at least an apex jr plus trident and NP

 

[thecodingart]

Hydros is much cheaper as it’s an all in one tester as brain is built in…to do the same thing in apex would cost at least $1650 as you need at least an apex jr plus trident and NP

Yup ^ this

 

[areefer01]

Hydros is much cheaper as it’s an all in one tester as brain is built in…to do the same thing in apex would cost at least $1650 as you need at least an apex jr plus trident and NP

You are looking at it as a first time user / purchase. Same could be said if you are buying the new Kamore. This is not the case with someone already in the Neptune ecosystem and Trident user.

Just depends on the point of entry and it will not be the same for each hobbyist. Important to clarify.

 

[DJ Mike Fury]

Not everyone has an apex and if they do, they’re not all committed to it like you may think especially if the original Trident is any barometer for NP. And here’s the reality, Trident and NP are going to continue to burn through your reagents unlike Maven - a true hidden cost that no one is talking enough about. There’s no minimum testing requirement per day with Maven unlike Apex.

Here’s the bottom line, Aperture is releasing Apex Trident NP when the phosphates test has NOT been working as of just a little over 2 months ago since last spoke to NSI (beta testers for Neptune). There’s a problem with the low resolution. The fact that they rushed this for RAP Orlando and laying it on a table with no price when it’s less than a month out should be a warning sign to EVERYONE.

 

[Derrick0580]

If someone is already invested into the apex ecosystem, why are they even complaining about the price of the maven? Is adding the N&P cheaper than the maven? Yes it is. Yet at the end of the day they will have much more invested into the entire system and the cost of a single maven unit. No one is forcing them to switch ecosystems so why complain? All in all most of the automated testing units run roughly the same amount or very close.

 

[DJ Mike Fury]

Doubling down on a poor decision makes little sense.

 

[thecodingart]

You are looking at it as a first time user / purchase. Same could be said if you are buying the new Kamore. This is not the case with someone already in the Neptune ecosystem and Trident user.

Just depends on the point of entry and it will not be the same for each hobbyist. Important to clarify.

I’m already in the Neptune system and getting a working testing system for me is still cheaper with Hydros. Being brainwashed into a brand lock is a pretty bad mistake. Consistently investing in things that are “cheap” and frankly dont work is a waste of money. Overall costs are cheaper with Hydros though - that’s a fact.

Not everyone has an apex and if they do, they’re not all committed to it like you may think especially if the original Trident is any barometer for NP. And here’s the reality, Trident and NP are going to continue to burn through your reagents unlike Maven - a true hidden cost that no one is talking enough about. There’s no minimum testing requirement per day with Maven unlike Apex.

Here’s the bottom line, Aperture is releasing Apex Trident NP when the phosphates test has NOT been working as of just a little over 2 months ago since last spoke to NSI (beta testers for Neptune). There’s a problem with the low resolution. The fact that they rushed this for RAP Orlando and laying it on a table with no price when it’s less than a month out should be a warning sign to EVERYONE.

Exactly. And I will just be blunt — the Neptune rep that was there is a d*ck and in utter denial about their slew of mistakes and issues. He may be in denial, but world wide coral has been pushing Hydros because of their crap which ties into why the WWC 4,000 gallon tanks are running Hydros. I love how their RAP video on the “new” products tried to use Top Shelf who’s also now pushing more Hydros. I think SaltwaterAquariums is the only big vendor still trying to push Neptune because of culture and them not trying Hydros.

 

[cowfootball]

Still no word on release? I just finished setting up a new tank on Hydros and I'm tired of testing already

 

[thecodingart]

Still no word on release? I just finished setting up a new tank on Hydros and I'm tired of testing already

Around Black Friday time — holidays

 

[cowfootball]

Around Black Friday time — holidays

Oof! That's a long-butt time between announcement and release. I saw saltwateraquarium.com posted a video of it a few days ago. I figured if it was getting into distributors hands it wasn't far off but I guess not!

 

[E.intheC]

Oof! That's a long-butt time between announcement and release. I saw saltwateraquarium.com posted a video of it a few days ago. I figured if it was getting into distributors hands it wasn't far off but I guess not!

On a positive note, if you set aside $100/day you should have enough to buy one by thanksgiving

 

[n2585722]

Oof! That's a long-butt time between announcement and release. I saw saltwateraquarium.com posted a video of it a few days ago. I figured if it was getting into distributors hands it wasn't far off but I guess not!

They have showed things they are coming out with at those shows before that it was a year later before they were available including the first Hydros controllers. So it is not uncommon for it to take several months after they have one at one of those shows.

 

[kenchilada]

On a positive note, if you set aside $100/day you should have enough to buy one by thanksgiving

They have a lot to prove before I'd buy one.

Haven't heard good things about X10 alkalinity testing so far. That's a huge red flag.

I need to see price of reagents. It has to be cheaper to operate than Mastertronic (which is pretty cheap) and have a better user interface (but how could it not?).

How often do I need to calibrate it and perform maintenance like pump hose changes? Again, must be easier than Mastertronic for me.

It worries me how some products are obvious cash grabs, like the iV. It's $129 for a 3D printed probe holder with a $5 stirrer and a $1 glass beaker. I mean... $50? Ok maybe. But $129?! I'll just make my own.

I love my Hydros control stuff though. They need to take their time with this one and get it right.

 

[n2585722]

They have a lot to prove before I'd buy one.

Haven't heard good things about X10 alkalinity testing so far. That's a huge red flag.

I need to see price of reagents. It has to be cheaper to operate than Mastertronic (which is pretty cheap) and have a better user interface (but how could it not?).

How often do I need to calibrate it and perform maintenance like pump hose changes? Again, must be easier than Mastertronic for me.

It worries me how some products are obvious cash grabs, like the iV. It's $129 for a 3D printed probe holder with a $5 stirrer and a $1 glass beaker. I mean... $50? Ok maybe. But $129?! I'll just make my own.

I love my Hydros control stuff though. They need to take their time with this one and get it right.

I have not had too many issues with my iV, X10. I have had the air bubbles in the reagent tubing, but I think it could be caused by a reaction between the tubing and the reagent. I can set the reagent pump to 30ml a minutes and run it for just a few minutes to get them out. It has been 2 weeks since then and no bubbles. It does better than the KH Carer for Alkalinity testing. That is the only other auto tester I have had so far. Currently I use Hanna for the other test but for a 100 test each for all 5 on the Hanna testers it would cost over $300 for the reagents to do those test.

 

[jofy]

I think SaltwaterAquariums is the only big vendor still trying to push Neptune because of culture and them not trying Hydros.

Isn't BRS and Neptune owned by the same parent company?

 

[thecodingart]

Isn't BRS and Neptune owned by the same parent company?

Correct, although I was referencing SaltwaterAquariums. BRS will continue pushing Neptune products given they're owned by the same company -- which is unfortunate.

 

[n2585722]

Correct, although I was referencing SaltwaterAquariums. BRS will continue pushing Neptune products given they're owned by the same company -- which is unfortunate.

They have posted a few videos on youtube on the Hydros. Here is a link to the latest one .

 

[thecodingart]

They have posted a few videos on youtube on the Hydros. Here is a link to the latest one .

I didn't mean that as a nic against them as much as they'll always be a bit bias and more focused for obvious reasons.

 

[corosato]

They have posted a few videos on youtube on the Hydros. Here is a link to the latest one .

He genuinely seems to have been impressed with trying out the Hydros system. The Launch is really nice, and I feel it's hard to argue against it for the price point if you don't already have a controller.