"Invasive"?!?!

Agreed and thanks again!

No, I get your point. Im just pointing out the fact that if people are told Xenia is invasive because it will grow and take over a tank, my point is so will Zoas. I don't call Coral invasive. They grow how they grow, people buy them because they like em, thats all that matters.
 
I have Pom Pom Xenia in my tank and love the stuff. I keep it controlled; sorta kinda. No, I am not saying Xenia and Aiptasia are the same. I was only saying the description Liquid was giving for Aiptasia could easily fit that of Xenia; depending on who you ask. I like how Cymaster put it. "Invasive is relative to the person who has the coral".
 
I said I thrown in the towel. Geez I saw we'd reached the end and wasn't interested in circling around again.

Ok can we stop arguing about this? It's getting pointless. : )
 
I know, I know. But, you've got a point on this one. Just saying. Where you take it is up to you. I've thrown in my 2 cents though.
Invasive could be called to all Corals, as they will all eventually spread and have to be pulled or cut at some point. Zoas will, trust me, will overtake a tank, doesn't matter which one you have. If they are put on the rocks and left to their own. So they to could be called invasive. So, its all in how you want to look at it I guess.
My point exactly Reefing. That's all I was saying.
 
Sorry one last thing....
"An invasive species is defined legally in the USA as “An alien species whose introduction does or is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to human health…‘Alien species’ means, with respect to a particular ecosystem, any species…that is not native to that ecosystem.â€
This is the definition and isn't open to interpretation. To be invasive means meeting certain criteria.
 
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Hands down best control:
Pluck the coral, glue what's left. I will cut the Xenia or star polyps out of a rock and cover the leftovers with superglue gel. Works with aptasia too.
 
We should all be more sensitive to the feelings of these corals. They don't like being called names. Proper terminology would be overpopulating :)
 
We should all be more sensitive to the feelings of these corals. They don't like being called names. Proper terminology would be overpopulating :)

I agree. They don't like sounding like they're planning a military coup.
 
Wait...aren't majanos and aptaisia anemones? What do you do about them if they start spreading in your tank?
 
Best thing to do during anemone outbreak:
1) start a thread, this will help you document your own progress while getting constant pointers and at the very least, encouragement.
2) attack: nems or any other invasive coral type animal hates lemon juice and hot vinegar. Stabbing them with a needle and injecting them is very effective and cheap. Just watch the pH level, as too much of either will cause a spike. Smothering them in super glue is another good one. Lesser successful ways would be to add aptasia eating animals like berghia nudibranch, peppermint shrimp, butterfly or file fish.

3) patience and constant monitoring. If you see one there are 10 out of sight.
 
Sorry one last thing....
"An invasive species is defined legally in the USA as “An alien species whose introduction does or is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to human health…‘Alien species’ means, with respect to a particular ecosystem, any species…that is not native to that ecosystem.”
This is the definition and isn't open to interpretation. To be invasive means meeting certain criteria.

OK, I need to do this but don't take it the wrong way... This is the definition of Invasive and it applys to our reefs. If that is the case here we go:

"An invasive species is defined legally in the USA as “An alien species whose introduction does or is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to human health…

Xenia, Blue Cloves, GSP, Aptasia, etc are all not "Invasive Species according to this part of the definition as keeping them does not affect human health at all. That is unless you decide to make a BLX (Bacon, Lettuce, Xenia) sandwich and eat it... In no way does a coral's introduction cause economic harm to the economy outside your individual pocketbook. There is also no harm done to the environment outside of the foreign simulated environment in the aquarium.

‘Alien species’ means, with respect to a particular ecosystem, any species…that is not native to that ecosystem.”

Our aquariums are a simulated foreigh ecosystem contained in a glass box. Not a single fish, snail, crab, or coral came originally from the ecosystem we have created in our aquariums as they more than likely came from the wild at some point. Also We keep multiple different species of fish, snail, and coral which come from all different parts of the world. That would mean they are ALL invasive species in relation to each other...

This is the definition and isn't open to interpretation. To be invasive means meeting certain criteria.

So you are right as definition isn't open to interpretation so your original thought of Xenia being invasive would be incorrect unless you considered the $1000 super colored chalice or the purple monster colony sitting in the tank invasive as well.

So let's all just agree to sit in front of our invasive species biotopes and smile.
 
Since not a single tropical marine species is endemic to my living room, everything in my tank is an invasive species...
 
Invasive may not be technically the right word and I think that is being nit picky and dwelling on one word to make yourself technically right.. Xenia will take over a tank, If it dont maybe your not giving it the right care it needs which does not require much.

Two other species that are close are aiptasia and pocillopora.. They can spread like rats.
 
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