IS THERE ANYONE AS STUPID AS ME?

[Bubba002]

If something has bleach on or in it, adding vinegar is mixing bleach and vinegar. If you bleach sand and rock to turn it into dead sand and dead rock, you then add a ton of dechlorinator to it, NOT vinegar.

Rocks were outside soaking in bleach. Tank inside with vinegar and rinsing and rinsing rinsing never would I put rocks, bleach and vinegar together

 

[Bubba002]

Expiation required?

 

[blaxsun]

Expiation required?

I think the image is self-explanatory and describes much of this thread.

 

[Uzidaisies]

Besides the bleach and vinegar reaction, wouldn’t vinegar react with the rock and sand itself? Aren’t these things made from carbonate minerals? If cleaning vinegar has more acetic acid, I would expect an even stronger reaction than with other types of vinegar.

 

[Uzidaisies]

So the bubbles are probably co2

 

[vetteguy53081]

Cleaned tank totally out rocks soaking in Clorox sand somewhere out in woods and I used CLEANING VINEGAR…….God knows it was a mistake picked up several bottles not noticing one was cleaning. Bubbles, bubbles and more bubbles. Tried sprinkling with table salt……. Now I have 69 lb. live sand 4 cured rocks and bubbles. Does anyone know what I should do ? No, not a nube, 17 years in this and don’t intend to let a beautifully clean tank covered with bubbles Stop me, just need some wisdom here. And will the table salt and bubbles hurt my live sand?

If I could say- If this were my error (which happens)- Id get new stuff and start all over.
No sense setting up a new tank with this stuff and it does not fare well.

 

[Bubba002]

Red Sea Max 290E for sale cheap and all the **** that goes with it including this kind understanding group

 

[Goaway]

Red Sea Max 290E for sale cheap and all the **** that goes with it including this kind understanding group

You may sell everyone above @vetteguy53081 's post.

 

[MnFish1]

What do you mean mnfish

You quoted another person. I have no idea what you're referring to?

 

[MnFish1]

Yes, chrlorine gas is ok to use unless you add mustard , I'm so confused, thought this post was about painting ... You guys posted this and I replied to painting, I'm looking at my aquriam but not enjoying as this is weird....

This post was about cleaning a tank with vinegar and Chlorine - you are responding to the wrong post.

 

[MnFish1]

Rocks were outside soaking in bleach. Tank inside with vinegar and rinsing and rinsing rinsing never would I put rocks, bleach and vinegar together

You have to admit - your OP was a little unclear. EDITED - NOW I GET IT - CLEANING Vinegar. I agree with Vetteguy to a point. The key to all of this is rinsing - and figuring out exactly which chemical is in the 'cleaning vinegar'. It could be totally harmless. It could have been soap. But - if you google it - its just a more acidic form of vinegar - if this is the type you used - its the same as the advice I gave you before:
"You probably know by now that everyday white vinegar is an effective natural cleaner to use in the home. But you may have also noticed a product labeled “Cleaning Vinegar” on the store shelf. Cleaning vinegar can tackle just about any dirty, grimy or dusty job in your home. At about $3 to $4 dollars a gallon, it’s extremely affordable. And just like other types of vinegar you’re used to, it’s nontoxic and environmentally friendly. Most brands earn the top safety rating from Environmental Working Group. "

 

[Goaway]

This post was about cleaning a tank with vinegar and Chlorine - you are responding to the wrong post.

He made a mistake. He did not intend to use the vinegar with bleach. He's been through a lot.

Sounds like the rock had an alternator after the incident. Not sure what it looks like. But, probably best to get new dry rock.

 

[kittenbritches]

 

[Tamberav]

Just let the remaining vinegar evaporate. It's just stronger vinegar.

For bleach.. a bunch of prime and soak in RODI, then let dry out.


I don't see anything ruined here. The rocks have bleach on them and the tank has vinegar on it. Both can evaporate.

 

[MnFish1]

He made a mistake. He did not intend to use the vinegar with bleach. He's been through a lot.

Sounds like the rock had an alternator after the incident. Not sure what it looks like. But, probably best to get new dry rock.

First - I was talking to the guy asking about 'painting'. Second - the dry rock was in bleach (it sounded like to me) - the vinegar was in the tank. Third - Depending on exactly which 'cleaning vinegar' he used - there is no need to get new rock. But - when it comes to chemicals - the best way to get an answer is to make sure its really clear what the chemicals are. Its possible that he needs to 'start over' - its possible (very) that he just needs to rinse his rock.

 

[Goaway]

Spray the rock well with a hose?

 

[Reefahholic]

I accidentally used some bleach with surfactant in it one time. The advice I can give you is to rinse it “extremely well.” I’d personally discard it. I rinsed mine several times until the water ran clear, but managed to loose a PBT 20-30 minutes after introducing it to the tank. No other fish were affected. Surprisingly the corals did ok too. Didn’t have any SPS in the tank at that time.

You can save it, but you better rinse it and stir it about 20-30x or so in a large vat. Then the question becomes…is it really worth the risk, time, and effort?

Cheers!

 

[MnFish1]

I accidentally used some bleach with surfactant in it one time. The advice I can give you is to rinse it “extremely well.” I’d personally discard it. I rinsed mine several times until the water ran clear, but managed to loose a PBT 20-30 minutes after introducing it to the tank. No other fish were affected. Surprisingly the corals did ok too. Didn’t have any SPS in the tank at that time.

You can save it, but you better rinse it and stir it about 20-30x or so in a large vat. Then the question becomes…is it really worth the risk, time, and effort?

Cheers!

If I read this correctly (and I answered the OP the first time) - he soaked the rocks in bleach, and cleaned the tank and 'live sand' with 'cleaning vinegar' - which is just a stronger form of regular vinegar (Depending on the label). The bubbles in his tank are probably the acid reacting with left over CaCo3. The Live sand is likely 'dead'. You're absolutely correct about the bleach with surfactant - with that I would toss everything. Hopefully the OP will clarify exactly which chemicals he actually used.

 

[Bubba002]

He made a mistake. He did not intend to use the vinegar with bleach. He's been through a lot.

Sounds like the rock had an alternator after the incident. Not sure what it looks like. But, probably best to get new dry rock.

I did not use vinegar WITH BLEACH. rocks were outside. 5o/5O bleach and water for 2 days. Rinse leave in clear water 2 days. Rinse baking soda and clear

I accidentally used some bleach with surfactant in it one time. The advice I can give you is to rinse it “extremely well.” I’d personally discard it. I rinsed mine several times until the water ran clear, but managed to loose a PBT 20-30 minutes after introducing it to the tank. No other fish were affected. Surprisingly the corals did ok too. Didn’t have any SPS in the tank at that time.

You can save it, but you better rinse it and stir it about 20-30x or so in a large vat. Then the question becomes…is it really worth the risk, time, and effort?

Cheers!

 

[Bubba002]

Thank you for your kind reply. Husband is going to use power washer on rocks after the come out of baking soda bath.

If I read this correctly (and I answered the OP the first time) - he soaked the rocks in bleach, and cleaned the tank and 'live sand' with 'cleaning vinegar' - which is just a stronger form of regular vinegar (Depending on the label). The bubbles in his tank are probably the acid reacting with left over CaCo3. The Live sand is likely 'dead'. You're absolutely correct about the bleach with surfactant - with that I would toss everything. Hopefully the OP will clarify exactly which chemicals he actually used.

did not clean the tank with the live sand in it. Cleaned tank totally empty did 3 rinses added new live sand after rinsing. That’s when the bubbles started.. live rock is still outside waiting to be power washed.