Is this ich

The live rock will cause problems. You may not get accurate copper readings . Remove liverock and substrate if you go this route
we have a separate tank that we are most likely going to QT just the fish in! going to set that tank up tonight to make sure everything is at the right temp before we put the fish in!
 
Excellent. Be aware that all fish need to be removed from the display and treated, regardless of symptoms.
 
Excellent. Be aware that all fish need to be removed from the display and treated, regardless of symptoms.
yes 100% starting the qt tank now basically and gonna move all the fish to thank tank tomorrow afternoon so we can make sure the qt tank conditions are good enough for the fish!
 
Don't forget the seachem ammonia badge and a bottle of Prime. You'll need to monitor ammonia levels in the tank regularly, the badges are easy to use and cheap.
 
Gee wiz... the guy just wanted to know if his fish had ich.

Answer: Hard to say conclusively based on the pictures. Can you provide additional information, such as:

  1. Are the fish swimming into the flow of the power heads?
  2. Are the fish breathing heavy?
  3. Do the fish seem to be scraping themselves against the rocks or substrate?
If one or more of these symptoms exist, you may be looking at velvet, in which case copper treatment in an isolation tank can be an option.

If it IS ich, you could isolate the fish and try the hypo salinity route.
 
Gee wiz... the guy just wanted to know if his fish had ich.

Answer: Hard to say conclusively based on the pictures. Can you provide additional information, such as:

  1. Are the fish swimming into the flow of the power heads?
  2. Are the fish breathing heavy?
  3. Do the fish seem to be scraping themselves against the rocks or substrate?
If one or more of these symptoms exist, you may be looking at velvet, in which case copper treatment in an isolation tank can be an option.

If it IS ich, you could isolate the fish and try the hypo salinity route.
Hey there!!

one of the clowns was defiantly swimming into the flow of a power head
as for the breathing heavy we aren't too sure what that looks like? our tang is doing something interesting and ill attach a video under to show you,
as for 3- no doesn't seem to be scraping themselves against anything at this moment.
 
Swimming into the flow of a powerhead is an indicator for velvet. Fich with velvet also have extremely rapid breathing -- around 150+ per minute, although it could be less than that.
 
Hey there!!

one of the clowns was defiantly swimming into the flow of a power head
as for the breathing heavy we aren't too sure what that looks like? our tang is doing something interesting and ill attach a video under to show you,
as for 3- no doesn't seem to be scraping themselves against anything at this moment.

That right there is a big indicator of velvet. Better put up the Bat Signal...

@Jay Hemdal
 
Gee wiz... the guy just wanted to know if his fish had ich.

Answer: Hard to say conclusively based on the pictures. Can you provide additional information, such as:

  1. Are the fish swimming into the flow of the power heads?
  2. Are the fish breathing heavy?
  3. Do the fish seem to be scraping themselves against the rocks or substrate?
If one or more of these symptoms exist, you may be looking at velvet, in which case copper treatment in an isolation tank can be an option.

If it IS ich, you could isolate the fish and try the hypo salinity route.

That right there is a big indicator of velvet. Better put up the Bat Signal...

@Jay Hemdal
lol oh its up xD
 


lol oh its up xD

The tang is definitely breathing too fast. The primary disease cause of that is velvet (Amyloodinium). It can also be caused by low dissolved oxygen and/or high carbon dioxide. Adding an air stone to the tank will reduce that issue, and will help the fish temporarily if it is velvet.

The clowns in the older video could have ich, but it could also be velvet, I couldn't get a good read on their respiration rate. In either case, the standard treatment is copper, dosed in a treatment tank, can you set up for 5that?

jay
 
The tang is definitely breathing too fast. The primary disease cause of that is velvet (Amyloodinium). It can also be caused by low dissolved oxygen and/or high carbon dioxide. Adding an air stone to the tank will reduce that issue, and will help the fish temporarily if it is velvet.

The clowns in the older video could have ich, but it could also be velvet, I couldn't get a good read on their respiration rate. In either case, the standard treatment is copper, dosed in a treatment tank, can you set up for 5that?

jay
Hi there!! the clowns dont seem to be breathing too different but ill try to attach a video.

Yes we have a QT tank getting ready for treatment, we are just waiting for the water to be in the right conditions to add the fish in!
im looking for some help in terms of my QT tank, can I put my tang in with myclowns ?
we only have 1 qt tank and dont have the resources to have 2 QT tanks going, if they're being treated with the same thing is it ok to keep them together?
 
Hi there!! the clowns dont seem to be breathing too different but ill try to attach a video.

Yes we have a QT tank getting ready for treatment, we are just waiting for the water to be in the right conditions to add the fish in!
im looking for some help in terms of my QT tank, can I put my tang in with myclowns ?
we only have 1 qt tank and dont have the resources to have 2 QT tanks going, if they're being treated with the same thing is it ok to keep them together?

If the tank is big enough, sure, you can treat in one tank for the same thing.
 
@davidcalgary29

I thought you made a good point

-The only rudeness I've ever encountered on aquarium forums (and not this one, it must be said) was when I've expressed my opinion about quarantining


I’ve been part of rude exchanges as the receiver and the qb unfortunately /

quarantine no qt posts are the height of contention currently in the hobby



we can’t keep ignoring the rates of loss, in other threads it was mentioned if this was emerging puppy disease everyone would pull together on puppy forums to develop best practices but something keeps marine fish way behind the development curve

it’s a marked, stand out trend that is nearly expected to express as disease markers in fish if we don’t begin disease preps immediately in new tank bring ups

during cycling, during the intro to fish discussion


I’m impressed Fish didn’t let the thread go downhill or my inputs cause it to to downhill, true receptivity and curiosity to implement best practices was shown by Fish and I bet many more aquarists are willing to begin preps up front if they’re discussed during cycling


In order for me to move beyond a potentially myopic view of forum cycle umps not relaying the responsibility of disease preps it might even be more prudent to pin the responsibility to relay disease preps upon *anyone* who produces formal cycling information, the next trophic level above us in forums: all macna speakers and filter bacteria scientists who make YouTube videos


quit telling us about stalls, we don’t see stalled cycles here or anywhere

we see go’s, ready systems where people can begin stocking faster than we’d ever known in the past

there’s a new constant forward motion in the hobby to add things since the bacteria they create is so concentrated and able


macna speakers, it’s your job to link disease preps into cycling we expect to see some discussion in ‘22 from the big podium.


it’s about ammonia control, and disease preps, linked. Thats new cycling science reflecting the patterns and emerging trends we need to improve
 
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