Kenya tree or finger leather!?

[alexanderthefishlover]

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100% this!

To mock someone on an online help forum is really pathetic. I feel sorry for you. I hope you have a blessed day

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

Well this was an interesting readthrough…

To answer your initial question—this appears to be a sinularia leather based on your first picture, though the second pic could be a Kenya tree. Kenya trees tend to have shorter, fuzzier branches than sinularia.
In both cases, they tend to have periods of decline as well as periods of growth, and will occasionally shed branches to reproduce. While falling apart to reproduce is far more frequent for a Kenya tree, it is not unheard of for other leather corals. If this is the only coral of yours that has receded like this, I would say that it is likely going through a shedding or reproductive process rather than dying. I recommend that you post the parameters so we can better determine whether there is a bigger issue. The second image looks like it may be a little bleached, which would indicate nutrient deficiencies. Because describing parameters as “perfect” can be subjective, providing actual numbers will help us give better advice.

Apologies if anyone seemed a little abrasive—I think for the most part people were just trying to give you a heads up for how the Emergency tag should be used. I’m sorry to hear that your coral melted back. I’ve been there and it’s not a great feeling.
However, the emergency tag is usually utilized when someone is experiencing mass die-off in their tanks or needs to quickly identify a fast-acting disease. The tag is especially important to us Fish Medics and other experts, as it helps us easily identify an emergency and offer a quick solution. Your initial post was asking to identify whether the coral was a Kenya tree or a sinularia. That is not an emergency, that is a simple question with a simple answer. Had you provided all the information including the fact that it was melting back in your initial post, then it may have been treated more as an emergency. Misusing the Emergency tag can be extremely frustrating for those trying to filter out urgent matters from non-urgent ones, and seeing simple questions labeled with this tag can be distracting. General questions like these are better off being open to general discussion.

Also, be sure to keep that sinularia/tree coral away from other corals. In my experience, sinularia can grow fast and outcompete neighboring corals, especially SPS and non-stinging LPS! I hope this helps.

Hi thank you for all the advice I really appreciate it!

What corals would it be ok beside? Right now it sometimes touches against the pulsing Xenia and the encrusting gorgonian?

I have active carbon running would this prevent issues ?

 

[Bitter old man]

To mock someone on an online help forum is really pathetic. I feel sorry for you. I hope you have a blessed day

Well I am a bitter old man…

 

[exnisstech]

nothing helpful to add yet again. Please continue with the ad hominem arguments. Says a lot about you.

Not an argument at all but an observation. But that's a discussion that doesn't belong here so I'll move along.

 

[BeanAnimal]

Where would I find what would and wouldn’t qualify as “an emergency post”?

The post wasn’t merely coral identification it was about keeping a coral alive after the demise of another. To me that constitutes a valid emergency as to me the information was urgent.

Sorry you don’t feel the same way I did about this very issue.

I was very annoyed by many of the posts that were redundant and off topic as you’ve pointed out. I was shocked by how many people could be so unhelpful and take this so personally when I’m the one with the dead and dismembered coral.

Perhaps a PM reminding them of how to communicate with others would suffice? I’m sure that’s not how you’d want this community to communicate to others in need of help and whom are feeling rather desperate for help.

Thanks again.

Hi Alexander

You asked so I will try to provide an answer.

Several of us have tried to kindly explain to you what the community considers an Emergency. I even attempted a bit of chicken nugget humor . When you bristled instead of saying "Ahh thanks, I get it", it kind of unfortunately invited a dogpile.

Revhtree is the owner of the forum and he also explained what would typically qualify, both to clear the dogpile and to help you understand. There is not an exhaustive list of what constitutes an "emergency". It is simple spirit and intent kind of thing. Like the attempted chicken nugget 911 humor. Yes, to the person with $5.00 to their name and starving, getting shorted a nugget is an "emergency" but not one for 911. Same logic here...

Rev is not only the owner, but he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Instead of locking this thread, he simply attempted to clarify how "emergency" works and also asked people to calm down. A chance to reset with a kind response. So, instead of lashing out at people who he already openly asked to back off - how about we just reset and get back to understanding what is going on in your tank?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Hi thank you for all the advice I really appreciate it!

What corals would it be ok beside? Right now it sometimes touches against the pulsing Xenia and the encrusting gorgonian?

I have active carbon running would this prevent issues ?

The pulsing Xenia should be fine, although gorgonians can be quite sensitive to other corals touching them, in my experience. You’re definitely on the right track by running carbon, which can help greatly for neighboring corals. I keep my leathers right by the filter intake so that any chemicals or shed skins go right through the carbon filtration.

 

[BeanAnimal]

Let's also touch on something else important.

I am going to assume you like soft corals and don't mind having a tank full of them, to the point that removal will be near impossible if you decide to change course and go with SPS/LPS or a mixed reef.

Xenia, Star Polyps, Kenya Tree, many Leathers, etc. are extremely prolific once they are happy. The will spread all over the tank and are likewise hard to remove because they root into the pores of rock and any little bit left over can start a new colony.

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

Hi Alexander

You asked so I will try to provide an answer.

Several of us have tried to kindly explain to you what the community considers an Emergency. I even attempted a bit of chicken nugget humor . When you bristled instead of saying "Ahh thanks, I get it", it kind of unfortunately invited a dogpile.

Revhtree is the owner of the forum and he also explained what would typically qualify, both to clear the dogpile and to help you understand. There is not an exhaustive list of what constitutes an "emergency". It is simple spirit and intent kind of thing. Like the attempted chicken nugget 911 humor. Yes, to the person with $5.00 to their name and starving, getting shorted a nugget is an "emergency" but not one for 911. Same logic here...

Rev is not only the owner, but he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Instead of locking this thread, he simply attempted to clarify how "emergency" works and also asked people to calm down. A chance to reset with a kind response. So, instead of lashing out at people who he already openly asked to back off - how about we just reset and get back to understanding what is going on in your tank?

As a person in law and involved in contract law I need things to be written out and defined. Not just a “hey this is kind of how we do things” or “this is kind of what would be considered an emergency”. This is why I asked for clarity and preciseness… wasn’t meant to instigate further issues. Sorry you took it that way.

When reading things online we have the tendency to read what others write in the mood we are in or the mood we perceive the other to be in. That doesn’t always prove correct.

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

Let's also touch on something else important.

I am going to assume you like soft corals and don't mind having a tank full of them, to the point that removal will be near impossible if you decide to change course and go with SPS/LPS or a mixed reef.

Xenia, Star Polyps, Kenya Tree, many Leathers, etc. are extremely prolific once they are happy. The will spread all over the tank and are likewise hard to remove because they root into the pores of rock and any little bit left over can start a new colony.

I already have lps/SPS hammer, torch, frogspawn…… I appreciate this advice so thank you.

What do I do moving forward? Can these work together somehow?

 

[BeanAnimal]

I already have lps/SPS hammer, torch, frogspawn…… I appreciate this advice so thank you.

What do I do moving forward? Can these work together somehow?

You need to consider what you want in the end. Prolific softies can be a nightmare if you get tired of them. They can also wage pretty substantial chemical warfare. Carbon helps with that.

They can somewhat work together but can also create headaches with aggressive competition for space.

Me? Unless I was sure I wanted a tank full of the stuff, I wouldn’t put it in at all.