Lanthanum Chloride Questions

[Sean Clark]

I dosed about 10 drops of Lan Chlo as Blue Life RX directly to my DT tank to chase my number down to around 0.1

Over the course of 6-8 weeks it started a MELT of 12 strains of zoas and lost about $1000 worth of replacement value

I blame it on accumulating Lanth Phosphates forming and settling out in the DT. Then consumed by zoas that cause them to melt (?). My THEORY....

I NOW use Lan Chloride only in the sump where the exchange of chloride to Phosphate chemically can be collected thru a filter sock

LOSS OF LPS CORAL IF LANTH PHOS IS FLOATING AROUND THE SYSTEM

I do not doubt your experience. I believe that your account of what happened did happen.
I do not think that 10 drops of Blue Life RX was the root cause of your zoa issues 6-8 weeks later.
You did not specify but I will assume the "worst case" scenario here where you dosed 10 drops (0.5ml) every day for 8 weeks straight.
That is 560 drops or 28ml over 8 weeks.
I do not know what your water volume is. But let's say that it is 10 gallons or 37854.1ml.
Let's add 28ml of Lanthinum Chloride to that.
37854.1ml + 28ml = 37882.1ml total water volume.
So that is 99.92608646% artificial sea water and 0.0007391354% LaCl.
This is assuming you were dosing into a 10 gallon display tank.
Again assuming the worst case scenario where none of the Lanthinum Chloride was bound up and 100% of it was free in the system to wreak havoc.
It doesn't add up to me and is not consistent with proper implementation of the product.

 

[ZoWhat]

I do not doubt your experience. I believe that your account of what happened did happen.
I do not think that 10 drops of Blue Life RX was the root cause of your zoa issues 6-8 weeks later.
You did not specify but I will assume the "worst case" scenario here where you dosed 10 drops (0.5ml) every day for 8 weeks straight.
That is 560 drops or 28ml over 8 weeks.
I do not know what your water volume is. But let's say that it is 10 gallons or 37854.1ml.
Let's add 28ml of Lanthinum Chloride to that.
37854.1ml + 28ml = 37882.1ml total water volume.
So that is 99.92608646% artificial sea water and 0.0007391354% LaCl.
This is assuming you were dosing into a 10 gallon display tank.
Again assuming the worst case scenario where none of the Lanthinum Chloride was bound up and 100% of it was free in the system to wreak havoc.
It doesn't add up to me and is not consistent with proper implementation of the product.

220g total volume
180g DT
Sump in basement
200micron sock replaced every 3rd day

 

[schooncw]

I've used Phosphat-E and Phosphate RX for several years directly into my skimmer neck. No ill effects, but I monitor po4 regul

I dosed about 10 drops of Lan Chlo as Blue Life RX directly to my DT tank to chase my number down to around 0.1

Over the course of 6-8 weeks it started a MELT of 12 strains of zoas and lost about $1000 worth of replacement value

I blame it on accumulating Lanth Phosphates forming and settling out in the DT. Then consumed by zoas that cause them to melt (?). My THEORY....

I NOW use Lan Chloride only in the sump where the exchange of chloride to Phosphate chemically can be collected thru a filter sock

LOSS OF LPS CORAL IF LANTH PHOS IS FLOATING AROUND THE SYSTEM

Interesting findings, when mine are exactly the opposite. I have dosed 10ml undiluted, into my sump-120 gallon dp- several times-bringing PO down to 0.20- and after several hours, my euphyllia, zoas, leathers, etc. look better than ever.

 

[schooncw]

I've used Phosphat-E and Phosphate RX for several years directly into my skimmer neck. No ill effects, but I monitor po4 regularly.

I tried dosing into my skimmer neck once but found it not as effective, as I thought it would reduce Lan precipitate floating around. I'll give it another try

 

[Maximitsurugi]

Did anyone workout a dilution if the Seaklear product that matches the strength and instructions of Phosphate RX or Phosphate E?