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calvo15290 said:
I don't trust LEDs just too new they barely have a track record and from the story's I hear they go out fast!
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you heard it wrong then, it all about how you use it. LED can be really nice if it's used right.

I think this hobby is more science than art, but most of people treat it more like art than science. (me included, lol)
 
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It is a art if it was a since it wold not be as Beautiful as it is you do treat it as one at times but most of the time it is a art I had some palls over at my place and they loved my tank


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Nice params make corals grow fast IMO,

I remember an article from randy Holmes-Farley and him saying "technically, if you had the proper water with enough nutrients to live than it corals could survive in the dark".

It's obviously not likely as we still haven't figured out all the nutrients and elements corals use today. There is some like iodine, and K. But in reality they are still on the theory shelf. ( I do dose both tho)

Anyways point being if the light is strong "enough" it will make corals color up more, I try and shoot for the lowest I can than move up as is mosts technique to find a good middle balance.

Rant/

cool article btw! Really enjoyed it.
 
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calvo15290 said:
So your saying hard coral ie photosynthetic can live with no light?


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Randy Holmes-Farley is.

It's kinda like you don't need to go outside to get vitamin D, you can take a supplement. It's not as healthy for you as naturally getting it the way you were designed to.

But in technicality it is much so possible.

If clams can revert carbon from the lights than why coral (if it was given) produce anything from the water.

Like a stated above its not likely that you would have success and I wouldn't recommend shutting your lights off all together and trying it, just saying if you knew a certain species down to a science to the point you knew what and how much it took in and what it needed than why wouldn't it survive if its getting everything it needs?

It was just from an article I read by a credited author in the reef hobby.
 
Don't go around quoting me and saying you can. Lol I was just tryna make a point as the strongest light never means best growth. And like the first article posted a lot of corals color up and even grow better under less light.

I've raised my lights lately and ran them longer and can say I'm getting better color and growth than when I was blasting em and running em less hours. I also have more time in the day to enjoy them.
 
Personally, I think the experiment was flawed from the start if I read it correctly. They used two different life support systems, did they not? All they were testing was lighting, so why did they not have systems that shared the same water and life support? This would have allowed for infinitely less variables. And why did they not compare LED & LEP to fluorescent, MH, and natural sunlight as a control? I just don't think the experiment was thought through very well. My 2 cents.


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Big issue in this hobby is that it is entirely science and for the most part the people giving the opinions are not scientists.
 
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Big issue in this hobby is that it is entirely science and for the most part the people giving the opinions are not scientists.
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I disagree that it is all science. Mostly, yes, but I think you have to have a feel for it too, not to mention an artistic eye for it to be truly great. And I have seen many marine biologist scientists that can't keep an aquarium to save their life. Not to mention, the article in question was not performed by "scientists."


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When I said more science than art is a polite way of say something doing something like

1. trusting what they heard from people (educated or not) blindly instead of believe those research papers or experiments
2. not doing things properly, eg: adding alk whatever he/she feel like it instead of adding it based on the average daily alk consumption

you got the idea, it has nothing to do with how you place the corals or your artistic views. hehe

in my professional field... when you say someone is doing more art than science that means they made up the number to make things look good instead of using the real data.

I hope that clears it.. lol

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I disagree that it is all science. Mostly, yes, but I think you have to have a feel for it too, not to mention an artistic eye for it to be truly great. And I have seen many marine biologist scientists that can't keep an aquarium to save their life. Not to mention, the article in question was not performed by "scientists."


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The experiment wasnt to show leds vs mh so pls stop bringing them up. This was just an interesting experiment that shows some corals grow better under different types of light and different intensities. And in all cases corals were more effecient at lower par levels and some even grew better or the same at low levels compared to high. And it also shows the effect of spectrum on growth.

Plasma lighting was used because its new and puts off light in a full spectrum manner like MH do. Im sure moe tests will be done by people in the future testing with other lights. I too wondered why the same water wasnt shared throuh a sump but they claim to have kept the same parameters in both tanks.

I think this article is suppose to show you that were still learning when it comes to corals growth, light and spectrum

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The experiment wasnt to show leds vs mh so pls stop bringing them up. This was just an interesting experiment that shows some corals grow better under different types of light and different intensities. And in all cases corals were more effecient at lower par levels and some even grew better or the same at low levels compared to high. And it also shows the effect of spectrum on growth.

Plasma lighting was used because its new and puts off light in a full spectrum manner like MH do. Im sure moe tests will be done by people in the future testing with other lights. I too wondered why the same water wasnt shared throuh a sump but they claim to have kept the same parameters in both tanks.

I think this article is suppose to show you that were still learning when it comes to corals growth, light and spectrum

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My point had nothing to do with MHs. Which someone seems very touchy about. My point is that this experiment is very flawed and not much can be surmised from its data because of those flaws. Even if they were able to keep the testable water parameters the same, which I highly doubt they did, how about the variables not tested. And what about a knowable control? Don't get defensive, it's not your experiment.



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