Let Me ID Your Wrasse!

eatbreakfast · Nov 29, 2015

eurobeaner said:
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@evolved
Not sure where else to post this. The new social wrasse and the flame female have been flashing each other a lot. Since you are wrasse master I figured I'd ask you. What are they doing? Some courtship dance? They can't really mate since they are not the same correct?

Also, my other question when reading your other post about females turning make, would this keep the flame wrasse female since it appears to me that she is being submissive? Or would it happen faster because of the dominate male? (All theoretical of course)

Though not directly asked on this one, I agree with saltyhohog on this, it is social flashing, and not very serious at all, and with more wrasses there is a greater chance of females transitioning into males.

Wrassesngobies · Nov 29, 2015

Your flame 'Female' is probably a sub male and is trying to figure out who is dominant, it or the rubriventralis male. That is one of the fun things to see when you have multiple males. I saw nothing out of the ordinary or aggressive with those displays. I had a real mean rubriventralis a while back who would chase and nip other males to the point where I had to remove him to restore peace. He was doing this to my large male African Exquisite which probably outweighed that fish twice. This was after an acclimation box too. He was fine with it in the box, but let out, all he!! broke lose. He was an Anti-Social Fairy Wrasse.

Edit- Agree with TJ on this too.

Jdmonealp · Nov 29, 2015

Well cool. Thanks for everyone's input. I was mainly concerned with it being a male/female dance and the flame staying female. When I switched my tank over from the old 60 cube to the new 93 cube, the pecking order has changed. In the old tank, the big "blue side fairy" wrasse was a bully. He chased any new addition, wrasse or not. When I switched over I made sure he was the last transfer to the new tank by a week or 2. The only new fish I added in the 93 is a small Koke tang. When I added the big blue wrasse, the tang went into attack mode and went after the wrasse. He had 3 spots missing scales on his side. Wasn't expecting this big bull to get his butt kicked by a smaller tang.

Also, as for the wrasse pecking order, this little rubriventralis has some balls. He's #2 even though he's the smallest. I may run into issues eventually when he gets bigger, or when I eventually add a few more wrasse

Greenstreet.1 · Nov 29, 2015

I could not leave them but I need an id the lfs did not know what it was.

eatbreakfast · Nov 29, 2015

Greenstreet.1 said:
I could not leave them but I need an id the lfs did not know what it was.

C. rubripinnis, male.

Greenstreet.1 · Nov 29, 2015

Thank you once again I got two of them and a flame female. Got a velvet for the main tank.

evolved · Nov 30, 2015

eatbreakfast said:
Though not directly asked on this one, I agree with saltyhohog on this, it is social flashing, and not very serious at all, and with more wrasses there is a greater chance of females transitioning into males.

Yup, on both comments.

eurobeaner said:
and the flame staying female.

Sorry to say, but that likely won't happen. Sure, there's a chance, but the odds are against you.

twon8 · Dec 2, 2015

I don't think I got the wrasse I was supposed too

twon8 · Dec 2, 2015

evolved · Dec 2, 2015

twon8 said:
I don't think I got the wrasse I was supposed too

jordani and cebu pylei, both transitional males.

twon8 · Dec 2, 2015

evolved said:
jordani and cebu pylei, both transitional males.

Yeah it was marked katoi on the bag from QM, I was pretty sure it was jordani

Rybren · Dec 3, 2015

Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura?

This one was sold as a Paracheilinus carpenteri. I suspect that it is, but it is almost twice the size of my P. mccoskeri. There are two small spikes on the dorsal fin.

eatbreakfast · Dec 4, 2015

Rybren said:
Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura?

This one was sold as a Paracheilinus carpenteri. I suspect that it is, but it is almost twice the size of my P. mccoskeri. There are two small spikes on the dorsal fin.

First is C. cyanopleura, second is P. carpenteri.

Rybren · Dec 4, 2015

Thanks TJ.

Rybren · Dec 5, 2015

LFS got this in with no I'D.

eatbreakfast · Dec 5, 2015

Rybren said:
LFS got this in with no I'D.

Male Halichoeres marginatus, dusky wrasse.

Rybren · Dec 5, 2015

Thanks. The LFS said that it came in as a melanurus, but we all knew that it wasn't.

I almost bought it on spec, but didn't want to take the chance. Someone else came in and grabbed it.

Flashy Fins · Dec 9, 2015

Excited to have picked this guy up tonight! Obviously, a lubbock's, but I'm curious about the collection locale. Is this the Cebu variant or from somewhere else?

store pic

taken while acclimating him to the QT tank

eatbreakfast · Dec 10, 2015

Flashy Fins said:
Excited to have picked this guy up tonight! Obviously, a lubbock's, but I'm curious about the collection locale. Is this the Cebu variant or from somewhere else?

store pic

taken while acclimating him to the QT tank

It's a Bali variant, they have the yellow back, whereas the Cebu variants have a purple dot-dash line along the back.

Rybren · Dec 10, 2015

eatbreakfast said:
Male Halichoeres marginatus, dusky wrasse.

The fellow who was going to take this wrasse backed out, so the LFS called and offered it to me. There isn't a lot of info out there and what is available is often contradictory. How would it do in a 120 with the following fish:

Ornate Leopard
Carpenters
McCoskers
Cyanopleura
Chrysus
Yellow Tang
Royal Gramma
Coral Beauty
Yellow Watchman Goby
Ocellaris Clown
Mandarin

Thanks