Let Me ID Your Wrasse!

jrlevn · Apr 11, 2016

That's exactly what I thought. 2nd one was sold to me as a Hooded? I am skeptical.

Greenstreet.1 · Apr 11, 2016

I'm not that good yet lol to young for i one of the Big Boss will I'd for you think they are giving us rookies a chance at it first lol

eatbreakfast · Apr 12, 2016

jrlevn said:
Please ID these 2 wrasses

And

1. Is a female C. jordani.

2. Is a transitional/immature male in the bathyphilus complex. Most likely bathyphilus, but it is lacking the "points" on the caudal that males develop, but that may be a maturity issue that will develop later. The other possibility is that it is nahacky, which is far less common in the trade, but has been coming in the past few weeks.

evolved · Apr 12, 2016

jrlevn said:
Please ID these 2 wrasses

And

eatbreakfast said:
1. Is a female C. jordani.

2. Is a transitional/immature male in the bathyphilus complex. Most likely bathyphilus, but it is lacking the "points" on the caudal that males develop, but that may be a maturity issue that will develop later. The other possibility is that it is nahacky, which is far less common in the trade, but has been coming in the past few weeks.

Okay, we've both been wrong before (I still don't know what I was thinking last week regarding the Coris genus, besides not thinking. Coris venusta is really dichromatic. Anyhow...), but I've got to disagree on the second fish.

I see both as jordani. The first one is certainly female, and the second I can't tell with the lighting in the photo. The distinguishing characteristic I can't look past are the lateral red marking on the gill plate, above and below the eye. Those marking are indicative or jordani, and not bathyphilus.

A better photo with less intense backlight would make things simpler, however.

eatbreakfast · Apr 12, 2016

evolved said:
Okay, we've both been wrong before (I still don't know what I was thinking last week regarding the Coris genus, besides not thinking. Coris venusta is really dichromatic. Anyhow...), but I've got to disagree on the second fish.

I see both as jordani. The first one is certainly female, and the second I can't tell with the lighting in the photo. The distinguishing characteristic I can't look past are the lateral red marking on the gill plate, above and below the eye. Those marking are indicative or jordani, and not bathyphilus.

A better photo with less intense backlight would make things simpler, however.

I can definitely see those facial stripes, but what made me go bathyphilus complex is , what appears to me, the beginnings of some black markings on the back third of the dorsal and on the anal fin. And I've never seen black on the fins of a jordani. I will completely agree that a better pic will make a definite id possible. I can id most wrasses on my phone, but that one I needed a computer screen to venture an id.

evolved · Apr 12, 2016

eatbreakfast said:
the beginnings of some black markings on the back third of the dorsal and on the anal fin.

I see those, but my eyes interpreted such as an artifact of the blue light in the photo.

(Is the dress black and blue or white and gold?)

jrlevn · Apr 13, 2016

Better pictures

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eatbreakfast · Apr 13, 2016

jrlevn said:
Better pictures

Yep, Hunter was right. Definitely a flame.

evolved · Apr 13, 2016

eatbreakfast said:
Yep, Hunter was right. Definitely a flame.

So we're even on mistakes this month

Richie49 · Apr 13, 2016

What is this wrasse?ps it got ich on its second day here, what can I do?

eatbreakfast · Apr 14, 2016

Richie49 said:
What is this wrasse?ps it got ich on its second day here, what can I do?

That's a male Cirrhilabrus solorensis. The fish is pretty small in the pic, but I'm not entirely convinced that it is ich, It appears to look more Marine Velvet, which IME is a more serious fish killer. Usually avoiding copper is advisable with wrasses, but in cases such as this using a chelated copper, such as coppersafe, or getting Chloroquine phosphate if available would be a good idea. Both need to be dosed in a qt tank. @Humblefish and @melypr1985 may have more specific insights on the meds.

melypr1985 · Apr 14, 2016

Richie49 said:
What is this wrasse?ps it got ich on its second day here, what can I do?

That doesn't look like ich. TJ is right about that. but the fish is too small in the pic for me to say velvet or brook. Either way, he needs to be in a QT for treatment along with any other fish you have with him. Leave the tank fallow for 6 weeks or 76 days if you want to be absolutely sure every parasite is gone out of there. I'd use CopperSafe or CopperPower with these guys. Maybe start a new thread in the disease forum with some close up pictures and we can help you out better there. Dont wanna derail the purpose of this whole thread.

Duke4Life · Apr 16, 2016

Lfs has this as a multi color but I think it looks more like a young c.f. cyanopleura

eatbreakfast · Apr 16, 2016

Duke4Life said:
Lfs has this as a multi color but I think it looks more like a young c.f. cyanopleura

TBH, I can't really tell what colors are what with all that blue, but looking at the dorsal pattern/color contrast, it looks like a temminckii variant to me.