Lets talk auto top offs

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I just want to hear everyone's thoughts on this topic. I am really on the fence with the Neptune ATK kit. I have never used a ato since im so old school lol. I always found myself using a 4 gallon bladder tank with a float hooked up to it. What is everyone using and if anyone is using the Neptune atk what is your thoughts?

 
I currently use the Tunze Osmolator and have done so for around 20 months without fault.

I purchased it after getting lots of recommendations

I also like the look of the Apex ATO and think I would give that a try as well if and when I need to change it, but so far the Tunze is working great (I hope I’m not tempting fate here lol!!)
 
I learned the hard way the auto top off is very important. I ordered the ice-cap ato and when I got it home it had a bad power supply and it would shut off. I got the power supply replaced and now it’s working good. Running a tank without a ATO is crazy. I would stay away from apex and go with tunze.
 
I think all the popular choices work fine ..... until they don't. Redundancy is important.
 
I'm of the opinion that stability in a reef system is key to success, and that an ATO is the single most important, and effective, piece of equipment you can purchase to increase stability. Ok... a heater is probably first, but we all have one of those, right?

Unfortunately, ATO systems, like all mechanical devices, are prone to failure. I like to see the following features in an ATO system:

1) Limited volume in reservoir. In my 150g system, my ATO reservoir holds 5 gallons of water. If it all dumps in at once... well, it's just not that big a deal.
Hook your ATO up to your RO/DI directly, or to a huge reservoir, and a failure can not only wipe out the tank, it can cause major water damage.

2) Redundant water sensors. I use a Tunze, it has an optical sensor, an electrical float switch in case that fails, and a timer that'll stop the pump if BOTH fail. Any good ATO should have at least two sensors, a primary, and a backup, because the primary WILL FAIL at some point. In my case, I have an additional high level sensor in my sump, tied to my Apex. If it trips, it cuts the power to my ATO, as well as shutting down my skimmer, so that I don't flood the skimmer cup.

Note: Using Kalkwasser in your ATO dramatically increases the importance of both of these points. 5g of RO/DI water? no big deal. 5g of saturated kalkwasser is another thing entirely. I used to do this, and stopped, some time back, in favor of dosing a known quantity of Kalk via a dosing pump. Much more stable results.
 
I have my RODI Unit hooked directly to my sump. There is float switch that will stop at the correct level but there is also a Neptune solenoid on the line that only opens for 1 hr a day. Should the float fail, at least ill only have 1 hr worth of fresh water being dumped in and that wont affect much due to system volume. And we check the sump daily so issues would be noticed.
 
I have my RODI Unit hooked directly to my sump. There is float switch that will stop at the correct level but there is also a Neptune solenoid on the line that only opens for 1 hr a day. Should the float fail, at least ill only have 1 hr worth of fresh water being dumped in and that wont affect much due to system volume. And we check the sump daily so issues would be noticed.

Assume it has worked for you, but I would not recommend this approach. Always a bad idea to hook up an ATO 'reservoir' with infinite capacity even with two redundant 'switches'. Also, unless you have a water reservoir on your RODI, burns through resin much faster with small starts and stops.
 
Kore 5th by Pacific Sun - Its the Ferrari of Dosing, ATO, AWC, and Temp monitoring.

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I use an auto aqua micro smart. its quite very quite but have a new ATK still in the box to replace it some time soon.
i like it (smartATO ) a bit better the the tunze not as many safety features tho but that could be an easy fix with a float switch.

like said most name brad will work until they dont. dont forget about ATO maintenance.
 
I have just bought a reefloat apparentley the best thing out there made by 1 guy in the uk
 
I have used the following very successfully:

Neptune Systems
Avast Marine
Tunze
 
ATK is very good as is Smart ATO and the JBJ ATO units especially for the cost
 
I built an ATO using an 18 Gal tanks, some air line, some rigid air line and Styrofoam. A big piece of styro was mounted to the edge of the sump. Two long pieces of rigid tubing were poked thru the sytro block towards each end pointing straight down. These function as guide rod for a second piece of styro that is the float valve. The air line tubing goes into the 18gal storage tank and is connected to a shorter piece rigid tubing that is in the center of the styro block on the edge of the sump. The height of the water feed tubing is adjusted to set the water level in the sump. A second piece of styro has holes through it that match the two guide rods.

They way it works is the second piece of styro floats on the guide rods and will rise up to the water supply tube shutting off the flow. As the water level drops just a tiny bit, the water will start to siphon out of the 18 gal into the sump. In practice there seems to always be a very slight flow into the tank that matches the evaporation rate. I used this system for years until I quite using the sump.

The tank is a 75 gal with a 20 gal tank as the sump.

Total cost, about $2.50

It worked well from day one. The biggest problem was getting the siphon restarted if I let the makeup water tank run dry.
There is next to no pressure on the float valve and if the water level were to get above the setting, the floating block of styro will exert a considerable amount of pressure to seal the water flow from the rigid air line. I tested that.
 
I used a JBJ ATO for a few years with no issues. Im setting up my RKL to be my ATO with a single float switch on my new setup. I do plan to add a second float for backup.
 
In 10 years of doing this I have never had an ATO until the tank I am currently setting up. I got the ATO to provide stability and to cover for my laziness. Now I realize just how poor a job I have really been doing. Even if I had been topping off daily (which I haven't), there is no way I could match the multiple times a day this thing does. Required equipment now as far as I am concerned. Oh, mine's a Tunze.

Jason
 

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