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Apologies for a total noob question. Having performed a search on the topic, it sounds like the answer to whether or not a slight degree of unlevel to an aquarium is problematic is a big "it depends on exactly how much." Given that, I decided to post a few pictures to get the thoughts of the community before the tank fully cycles and I have to worry about it later. I have a Red Sea Reefer 250 on the main level of our house, just a few inches away from the wall. It is not the ground level, so there are joists underneath and it's a 15 year old house. Before filling with water I did not do an adequate job checking the level of all four sides of the aquarium, so unfortunately I cannot comment on whether it has changed with the addition of the water weight. It appeared to be sufficiently level from the front center on top of the glass with the level, so we filled it all up after aquascaping and adding sand.

It looked great until just last night I noticed that the water level on the far right was ever so slightly higher than that on the left (from top of glass to waterline is about 1/16" difference from the far left to the far right sides of the tank on the front panel). The slight imperfections do not bother me aesthetically, but I wanted to make sure that over time it would not put undue stress on the tank itself.

Given that I'm using the Red Sea cabinet with the supplied dense foam pad between it and the tank, I figured the level issue was probably at the level of the floor. The base of the Red Sea cabinet appears to rest atop about sixteen to twenty high-density circular feet, with no ability to level them from what I can see, so trying to shim these feet would be a potential nightmare. We have laminate hardwood, and when I put the level on the ground, it is out of level in the exact same way as the tank, suggesting that the tank is level with the base, the base is level with the floor, but the floor itself has slight imperfections in level. To the experts out there - if I need to take more pictures or better describe the concern please let me know. Thank you so much in advance for thoughts.
- Jazzdude87

This is the center of the tank, so the right side water level is about 1/16" higher than the left at the extremes of the front glass. This makes sense as the right side of the tank is slightly lower than the left given the following picture:
Center of tank.jpg



This is the left side of the tank, with the bubble showing that the front of the tank is slightly lower than the back from this side:
Left side of tank.jpg



This is the right side of the tank, with the bubble showing the front of the tank is lower than the rear of the tank as well.:
Right side of tank.jpg


For reference, this is the center of the tank on the floor, showing that the tank matches the floor in downsloping from left to right:
Center floor.jpg


From the left side of the tank on the floor, again with the downsloping from back to front of tank:
Left side of tank floor.jpg


And finally from the right side of the tank on the floor, again downsloping of the floor from back to front of tank direction:
Right side of tank floor.jpg


Front of tank floor.jpg
 
Hey jazz, love the name.

As salty mentioned shims would take care of it. My 180 has had gansta lean since 2007. Never an issue, but mine is a 180 eurobraced. Anyway I would say since the water level does not bother you and it is not affecting the over flow I say like Jon u r good.

And welcome. I missed you other thread. Glad you here. No noob questions. Just things you haven’t run into yet. Otherwise I would be a noob after 30 years

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Salty and Mastiff,
Yes, 54 gallon display (65 gallon system), and yes, ideally I would have placed shims, but in order to do that now I think I'd need to drain just about the whole tank as it seems to rest on only these tiny circular discs as pictured below. I'd also be concerned if I only had to put a shim under a single disc that it would be unstable given that the base doesn't rest on a large enough surface area. Reassured to hear that overall the thought is that the structural integrity of the tank is not in question from those who have responded so far! Thanks again,
Jazzdude87

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My reefer 350 is on the carpet (ugg). After it was filled and settled into the carpet (& pad) it had a very slight front lean...

If you are in the US, this is what I used... worked great.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/8-in-Composite-Shim-Bundle-of-12-SHM1-12-TW/202807695
TheLost,
I am indeed in the US. Home Depot has received and will continue to receive my money as I work on this build. Lol. Did you have to empty any of the tank, or were you able to shim with the tank full? Also, in my case (see picture above) would you place it between the small white circular feet? Any concern about uneven weight distribution on the cabinet if that's the case?
-Jazzdude87
 
TheLost,
I am indeed in the US. Home Depot has received and will continue to receive my money as I work on this build. Lol. Did you have to empty any of the tank, or were you able to shim with the tank full? Also, in my case (see picture above) would you place it between the small white circular feet? Any concern about uneven weight distribution on the cabinet if that's the case?
-Jazzdude87

My stand doesn't have those feet. I was able to slide the shims under the corners then hammer them in with a 2x4 (I'm classy like that). I would be worried about damaging your hardwood floor and the cabinet feet.
 
My stand doesn't have those feet. I was able to slide the shims under the corners then hammer them in with a 2x4 (I'm classy like that). I would be worried about damaging your hardwood floor and the cabinet feet.

Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I think that if my wife walked in to me hammering in shims with a 2x4 between the cabinet and the hardwood she would be concerned to put it mildly. hahaha I can't imagine trying to level a tank on carpet. Strong work, friend.

I think if the consensus of the group remains that it is only an aesthetics issue, then I'm totally fine with it. It doesn't look noticeable to me without the level, and definitely doesn't interfere with the function of the overflow. Sincere thanks to the group.
 
Red Sea would tell you that as long as the bubble is within the lines it is fine, (at least that's what they told me), but it would drive me crazy in the long run and I would get it perfectly centered. Did your tank not come with adjustable feet? Mine did so I did not have to use shims.
 
Red Sea would tell you that as long as the bubble is within the lines it is fine, (at least that's what they told me), but it would drive me crazy in the long run and I would get it perfectly centered. Did your tank not come with adjustable feet? Mine did so I did not have to use shims.
I took a glance when it was upside down coming home from the store and didn't see any adjustable feet. It would not be totally surprising to me if I missed them, but I do recall thinking it odd that there were no adjustable feet. Did your (750 XXL presumably) have all adjustable feet, or just a few?
 
I had both the ones you have and the adjustable ones to choose from and I chose all adjustable. I think there was like 26 of them total. They also came with a little wrench to adjust them. I don't think you could have missed them if you got them because they are a lot longer than the regular feet so maybe your model just doesn't come with them.
 
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After re-reading that...it looks like you got the cabinet already assembled. If that is the case, then whoever assembled it probably made the choice to use those feet instead of the adjustable ones or maybe it just didn't come with adjustable ones. Maybe someone with the same tank could chime in here...

Also, Welcome to R2R!!!
 
After re-reading that...it looks like you got the cabinet already assembled. If that is the case, then whoever assembled it probably made the choice to use those feet instead of the adjustable ones or maybe it just didn't come with adjustable ones. Maybe someone with the same tank could chime in here...

Also, Welcome to R2R!!!
Have the same cabinet and the same concerns with leveling. If I level the front like it needs the feet on the center brace will be off the floor and they are not accessible. Following Along to see what you guys come up with
 
Have the same cabinet and the same concerns with leveling. If I level the front like it needs the feet on the center brace will be off the floor and they are not accessible. Following Along to see what you guys come up with
The bottom shelf of the cabinet comes off so that you can adjust the feet on that center brace.
 
Can you make a “base” on the floor, level that, and place the whole stand in/on it?
That's probably the best way if you don't have the leveling feet, but that would require the OP to completely take down the system to do so and it wouldn't look that good. Even if you cut the wood, (or whatever other material) to fit exactly under the stand, you would be able to see it at certain angles and that would drive me crazy.

Edit: To add, the OP would still have the issue of leveling whatever they put down on the floor and that comes back to shims.
 
I have a Reefer 250 and it stands on 2 foot wide ceramic tiles that are slightly uneven. The installer from my LFS moved the cabinet around my floor until it was totally level and then started adding water. Brad is correct, the plastic legs on the Reefer 250 are not adjustable.
 
Not trying to hijack the thread but I have a similar question regarding shims (the composite ones) on these feet? Will this be ok or to much pressure on the shim? My carpet is jacked and yes they are leveling feet but I didn't have enough thread.

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