Limited Edition corals?

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Would somebody please explain to me how a living thing could be a “Limited Editionâ€. I can understand a limited edition car, boat, or anything that is man made. But a coral? :beat_shot:


Definition - - an edition that is restricted to a specific number of copies

So that would mean that the coral could never reproduce itself.. Never grow..

And based on what I guess most are going to say there could also be a “Limited Edition†fish, a “Limited Edition†live rock or even “Limited Edition†shrimp…. HUM


I guess its time for me to sell some “Limited Edition†Sea (salt) water.


I just love the way people try to sell things :tongue:

 

[aalvarado87]

yeah i wondered this i thought of it as limited edition does this mean it only grew so much. Ha ha ha i think personally all it was, was someones way to to throw rare on it in fancy words. because come on doesn't limited edition coral make it sound so much more enticing than rare coral.

 

[m and m]

Because simply its nice and onlu a hand full of it. Yea in 25 years it might not so be hard to get but untill then it is. The FT has been around for 3-4 years now and its still in demand and drives a high proce.

 

[gar732]

This subject has been discussed a million times already, its just marketing.

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Because simply its nice and onlu a hand full of it. Yea in 25 years it might not so be hard to get but untill then it is. The FT has been around for 3-4 years now and its still in demand and drives a high proce.

That still does not make it a “Limited Edition” item... It grows or clones itself and then can be resold as a stand alone item.. It reproduces itself..

 

[m and m]

LE stands for limited edition since every piece is one of a kind that comes of i can see where they get it from. Name somthing that you think is LE.

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

This subject has been discussed a million times already, its just marketing.

No... not marketing.... just flat out lying..

Lie - a deliberate untruth

 

[AquaWorldPSC]

This is from the site where I first heard of LE 5 years ago...
"Limited Editions - These corals form the main business within Reeffarmers. Limited Edition (LE) corals are rare and exotic corals that Steve has collected over the years and continues to collect to this very day. In the past demand for these corals was very strong. Strong demand can actually cause problems for farmers. Over harvesting was a consistant problem with early exotic coral farming enterprises. To better match distribution (harvesting rates) with customer demand, Reeffarmers had implemented a harvesting reservation system. The rate of harvest was based on the growth rate of the farmed coral. We have however decided in July of 2010 to discontinue the reservation process for new corals. This is primarly a recognition of the current state of the US economy and its future short term prospects. In these economic conditions, it is very difficult to have reservations that are a few years into the future become realized as valid orders. This is because many people are experiencing work and resident displacements and changes. We will keep records of the old reservations on the corals LE web page. We will also continue to create LE web pages for new LE corals. The only change is that we wont take reservations. Right now we intend to release each First Edition LE through a silent controlled auction. That auction will be conducted safely with no financial information being transferred though the internet. Each auction bidder will have their bid and full name displayed so independent confirmation of the actual auction process can be conducted. We intend to sell additional captive grown fragments of the LE corals through either our Buy It Now page or through additional silent auctions. Since we no longer have to setup reservations records for new corals, we will be able to release new LE corals one at a time whenever they are ready. Please note - we are not trademarking the use of the term 'Limited Edition' with respect to harvested coral fragments. Reeffarmers was the first to use the term with respect to corals and we believe it should now be considered a common usage term within the captive coral industry. " -Reeffarmers.com

 

[MoneyPit]

If someone only sells a certain number of something, living or not, wouldn't you say it is limited. Now once it is more widely sold I would say you could remove the "limited edition" title. You are taking the term to literally. It's a marketing thing.

 

[chipcount]

it is simply marketing...what proof do you have its a lie

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

LE stands for limited edition since every piece is one of a kind that comes of i can see where they get it from. Name somthing that you think is LE.

I did some glass blowing of a set of glass bowls and after the run the mold and the unused glass were disposed of. Yes another mold could be made from one of the original bowls but it would be very tough to get the same color with out knowing the mix. So it’s a “Limited Edition” bowl based on color only and copy rights.

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

it is simply marketing...what proof do you have its a lie

Because I have corals that are "limited edition" that were frags from other people... And I have also given frags to others of the same... It grows and is not limited to just some... There is no limited amount that can be reached

 

[gar732]

Technically limited quantity would be a better phrase to use. Limited edition means only a certain amount will be produced and that's it. Like I said, its just marketing. You put an LE label next to a name that everyone knows in the industry and bam, you've got sales and inflated prices. The corals are nice to boot so people will keep buying. The only option you have is to buy or not.

 

[MimicOcto8]

I cant agree more with this thread. I also drives me nuts how people title things. LE being one of them. I also can't stand "super" and "ULTRA" and "rainbow" but I guess we just gotta live with it. maybe the next generation farmers will change the trend and hobby.

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Technically limited quantity would be a better phrase to use. .

Now that I could live with... But by that person only.

 

[MoneyPit]

I totally understand what your saying man. I have been seeing some folks hyping up a coral by saying it will soon be a "big name" LE coral. Now this I disapprove of. For someone to distribute it that way is wrong in my eyes, but again that's marketing.

 

[AquaWorldPSC]

I cant agree more with this thread. I also drives me nuts how people title things. LE being one of them. I also can't stand "super" and "ULTRA" and "rainbow" but I guess we just gotta live with it. maybe the next generation farmers will change the trend and hobby.

Ultra, Super, AAA, and Rainbow are all terms used by wholesalers and exporters. Thus why you see stores using the term, because they most likely paid for an ULTRA Acan or whatnot. I have over 50+ supplier's and exporter's stock list to prove that they all describe their coral this way. (Minus the prices + names of course )

When the exporter collects the coral they are separated into groups depending on coloration and rarity. The ones in the bottom group will just say Acan or grade c, the next teir is Grade b, then grade a, then grade AAA, and then Ultra, or Rainbow. That is what they use to describe the coral in order to grade them.

 

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Please note - we are not trademarking the use of the term 'Limited Edition' with respect to harvested coral fragments. Reeffarmers was the first to use the term with respect to corals and we believe it should now be considered a common usage term within the captive coral industry. " -Reeffarmers.com

Great post of what Reeffarmers.com beleives.


Just because "Reeffarmers.com" believe it should be common still does not make it right to use. Unless Reeffarmers.com can show me proff that there is only a limited amount that will ever be available then the term is a deliberate untruth.

 

[jledon4]

limited edition means that there is not that many around and are hard to find corals. this also makes them expensive. its more economics than marketing, the offer and demand. (little offer and a big demand).

 

[AquaWorldPSC]

Great post of what Reeffarmers.com beleives.


Just because "Reeffarmers.com" believe it should be common still does not make it right to use. Unless Reeffarmers.com can show me proff that there is only a limited amount that will ever be available then the term is a deliberate untruth.

Like other's said it should be interpreted as limited quantity. Only so big of a piece of coral come in and so much demand. A few years later it might not be the case for some corals which i do agree. (depending on growth rate.)