Losing fish

[Unitylover]

Are you using RODI?

Depends on where he lives. I use tap water, and my fish hasnt died, ive had her since december.
So it depends on the quality of water

 

[Sharkbait19]

move the rocks around. there might be a crab or mantis shrimp, brook has tell tale signs and cant kill that fast

Brook can kill overnight, though it sometimes takes slightly longer. In this case, a mantis shrimp or hitchhiker being the cause is extremely unlikely.

 

[Dburr1014]

Per their instructions, added distilled water and calibrated it to 0 ppm

Okay, per Randy Holmes-Farley, that's the wrong way.
He shows how to make calibrating fluid.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-06/rhf/index.php&ved=2ahUKEwjqkLrg-534AhVJmIQIHbLiDJcQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw291mE-D4_XMocBa4Yk45PW

Your refractometer could still be off.

 

[Unitylover]

Brook can kill overnight, though it sometimes takes slightly longer. In this case, a mantis shrimp or hitchhiker being the cause is extremely unlikely.

yes, and the superglued to the rock kinda checks out, you know, the extra slime?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Depends on where he lives. I use tap water, and my fish hasnt died, ive had her since december.
So it depends on the quality of water

I believe he was asking if he had an RODI system to clean the water himself.

 

[Sharkbait19]

yes, and the superglued to the rock kinda checks out, you know, the extra slime?

Extra slime could be excess mucous secretion which is characteristic of brooklynella

 

[Unitylover]

I believe he was asking if he had an RODI system to clean the water himself.

I know that, but tap water is probably not the cause.

 

[Sharkbait19]

I know that, but tap water is probably not the cause.

I agree. Although it can be detrimental, it is more often than not inconsequential

 

[Unitylover]

I agree. Although it can be detrimental, it is more often than not inconsequential

it can cause fish to be more likely to get diseases, but it wont kill them (unless the diseases do)

 

[Dburr1014]

it can cause fish to be more likely to get diseases, but it wont kill them (unless the diseases do)

Really? Can you post a link on this finding?
Never herd this before.

 

[Striket85]

move the rocks around. there might be a crab or mantis shrimp, brook has tell tale signs and cant kill that fast

The only things in the tank now are the 30g CUC from reef cleaners. Emerald Crab and some snails

Are you using RODI?

Yes, 0 tds

 

[Unitylover]

Really? Can you post a link on this finding?
Never herd this before.

when fish get stressed, they have a weaker immunity system. Im pretty sure everyone knows that. Stress can be caused by poor water quality. If you have dirty tap water, they can lose some of their immunity system.

 

[Striket85]

Okay, per Randy Holmes-Farley, that's the wrong way.
He shows how to make calibrating fluid.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-06/rhf/index.php&ved=2ahUKEwjqkLrg-534AhVJmIQIHbLiDJcQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw291mE-D4_XMocBa4Yk45PW

Your refractometer could still be off.

I'll get what I need to calibrate it this way today. I'll report back to see if that contributed

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

I'll get what I need to calibrate it this way today. I'll report back to see if that contributed

Or, for a quicker answer, take your refractometer to your LFS and test their salinity... If it reads the correct SG (often fish stores do keep theirs lower), then at least you will know how far off your water is now.
Long term, you do need a reliable way to calibrate. I know my refractometer has specific instructions to calibrate with distilled water, so maybe different brands calibrate differently.
(I also have a glass hydrometer that I use too... Allows me to double check my refractometer )

 

[Striket85]

Or, for a quicker answer, take your refractometer to your LFS and test their salinity... If it reads the correct SG (often fish stores do keep theirs lower), then at least you will know how far off your water is now.
Long term, you do need a reliable way to calibrate. I know my refractometer has specific instructions to calibrate with distilled water, so maybe different brands calibrate differently.
(I also have a glass hydrometer that I use too... Allows me to double check my refractometer )

It'd be faster to get what I need to follow the instructions posted than to get water from my lfs lol

 

[Dburr1014]

Or, for a quicker answer, take your refractometer to your LFS and test their salinity... If it reads the correct SG (often fish stores do keep theirs lower), then at least you will know how far off your water is now.
Long term, you do need a reliable way to calibrate. I know my refractometer has specific instructions to calibrate with distilled water, so maybe different brands calibrate differently.
(I also have a glass hydrometer that I use too... Allows me to double check my refractometer )

Unless it is specificly made for salt water at 35sg, directions are fine. But most are made for brine water and the directions will tell you to use distilled or 0 tds water. Calibrated to that will give you a miss reading at 35 sg. It is always better to calibrate closer to what your reading regardless. Just need to get a known standard.

 

[Dburr1014]

when fish get stressed, they have a weaker immunity system. Im pretty sure everyone knows that. Stress can be caused by poor water quality. If you have dirty tap water, they can lose some of their immunity system.

Link?

 

[Sebastiancrab]

I have had velvet kill that quick and show next to nothing on the body of the fish. It is a parasite and you will still need to take your tank fallow.

Best thing to do is get a 10 gallon quarantine tank also for your future fish. I have learned the hard way too that it is best to be safe rather than sorry.

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2024 Quarantine Procedures Jay Hemdal David Scarborough Protozoans (Cryptocaryon/ich, Amyloodinium/velvet) and Metazoan trematodes/flukes are by far the most common parasites found on newly acquired fish. A carefully managed, proactive quarantine process can effectively eliminate these...

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[Unitylover]

Link?

http://aquafind.com/articles/FishImmuneSystemStress.php
https://fisheries.tamu.edu/files/2019/01/SRAC_0474.pdf

 

[Unitylover]

i can find more easily too