Midas blenny concern

[Dillon engel]

My mother in law has a midas blenny that has some strange spots on it I don't believe it is ich but I'm not sure.

any body have an idea of what this is. I have some herbtana at home for my tank but I'm not sure if herbtana would help.

 

[dbl]

You might have better luck getting some help if we move this over to the fish disease forum. #mods

 

[Dillon engel]

There is something on my mother in law's midas blenny and I'm not sure what it is. I do not think it is ich. Any help would be great.

 

[143MPCo]

Moved.

 

[Roy 9121]

Could be flukes.

 

[stevo01]

Im thinking flukes, maybe.

I would use prazipro, then follow with reef rally. To treat the fish and tank. You could do fresh water dip for immediate relief and confirmation.

 

[stevo01]

Bump + @Humblefish @melypr1985 @Brew12 @4FordFamily

 

[4FordFamily]

I don't know, the spots on the back end of the fish look a lot like ich to me. Any other photos?

Treating with prazi is never a bad idea though, honestly, although it'll do nothing for ich or other ailments other than flukes

 

[Dillon engel]

I took a video of it swimming around when I was over at her house for dinner but I can't upload a video here for some reason. I have herbtana here at my house and it has done wonders for my blue hippo tang. Should I give her some of that to use on her tank.

 

[4FordFamily]

Herbtana actually doesn't do much if anything but this is a common misnomer -- what really happens is some fish can build their own resistance to ich. If you danced in front of your tank, you'd have the same result-- and who knows dancing might get the credit!

But yeah unfortunately that stuff is snake oil, you just have a really tough hippo. They're out there. Roughly 1/3 of them can do that short or long term in a good environment.

 

[Brew12]

I would definitely agree with doing a fresh water dip to check for flukes. Will give you a good chance to take a better picture so we can evaluate for ich.

 

[melypr1985]

The picture is pretty grainy and fuzzy, but that appears to be velvet to my eye. Are there any behavioral symptoms to go along with this? Are the other fish ok? How long has she had the midas? What was the last wet thing added to the tank and when? Have any of these fish been QT'd?

 

[melypr1985]

I merged these two threads to keep the confusion down. I agree with a freshwater dip as well. To upload a video, first upload it to youtube, then copy and paste the link here.

 

[Dillon engel]

The picture is pretty grainy and fuzzy, but that appears to be velvet to my eye. Are there any behavioral symptoms to go along with this? Are the other fish ok? How long has she had the midas? What was the last wet thing added to the tank and when? Have any of these fish been QT'd?

The other fish are fine, the midas blenny has been in the tank for 3 Months. It still acts normal and eats normal. The last fish added was a spotted Mandarin.

 

[melypr1985]

The last fish added was a spotted Mandarin.

How long ago was that?

 

[Dillon engel]

How long ago was that?

The Mandarin was added about a month ago. My mother in law told me today that as of this morning the midas blenny no longer has any spots on it. Lol I don't know what it was.

 

[scoopsthedog]

I have a Midas and has similar concerns. They love to flash into sand and have mucus that covers their body. Sometimes sand sticks to them (I've even seen a few copepods stick to him once). If the next day the spots are gone and/or move it could be sand.

 

[melypr1985]

The Mandarin was added about a month ago. My mother in law told me today that as of this morning the midas blenny no longer has any spots on it. Lol I don't know what it was.

Well with ick/velvet (the timeline makes me think ick) it has a life cycle where it only spends a short amount of time on the fish itself.

Life Cycle - Ich is most often introduced into an aquarium by a fish carrying trophonts. However, cross contamination from theronts or a tomont brought in on a coral/invert are other possibilities. Assuming we are dealing with a fish carrying trophonts, this is how the life cycle plays out:

1. A trophont will typically spend 3-7 days feeding on a fish, before dropping off to become a protomont.
2. The protomont crawls around for 2-18 hours, looking for a surface to encyst upon. Once it finds this, it sticks to the surface, and begins the encysting process. The parasite is now called a tomont.
3. It takes about 8-12 hours for the cyst to harden around the tomont. After this, the tomont goes into “reproductive mode” producing numerous daughter tomites. These tomites are then released into the water column as theronts. How long it takes for theronts to be released varies greatly, depending upon which strain of ich you are dealing with. The average time is 2 weeks, with 35 days usually being the maximum; however in at least one study (Colorni and Burgess 1997), it took 72 days for all the theronts to be released from a group of tomonts.
4. The now “free swimming” theronts seek out fish to feed on, thereby becoming trophonts, and the cycle starts all over again. A given strain will die out after 100 generations or so. Given the average life cycle of ich is 2 weeks, this could take almost 4 years (on average).

As you may have noticed, the timing for each stage to “move forward” to the next varies considerably. Therefore, ich is rarely in sync. For example, it is not unusual for a fish to be battling trophonts, while simultaneously theronts are swimming around looking for a host to feed on. This is especially true if your tank is plagued by more than one strain of ich. It’s this “perfect storm” that sometimes allows ich to overwhelm an immune system and the fish dies.

 

[stevo01]

Well with ick/velvet (the timeline makes me think ick) it has a life cycle where it only spends a short amount of time on the fish itself.

Life Cycle - Ich is most often introduced into an aquarium by a fish carrying trophonts. However, cross contamination from theronts or a tomont brought in on a coral/invert are other possibilities. Assuming we are dealing with a fish carrying trophonts, this is how the life cycle plays out:

1. A trophont will typically spend 3-7 days feeding on a fish, before dropping off to become a protomont.
2. The protomont crawls around for 2-18 hours, looking for a surface to encyst upon. Once it finds this, it sticks to the surface, and begins the encysting process. The parasite is now called a tomont.
3. It takes about 8-12 hours for the cyst to harden around the tomont. After this, the tomont goes into “reproductive mode” producing numerous daughter tomites. These tomites are then released into the water column as theronts. How long it takes for theronts to be released varies greatly, depending upon which strain of ich you are dealing with. The average time is 2 weeks, with 35 days usually being the maximum; however in at least one study (Colorni and Burgess 1997), it took 72 days for all the theronts to be released from a group of tomonts.
4. The now “free swimming” theronts seek out fish to feed on, thereby becoming trophonts, and the cycle starts all over again. A given strain will die out after 100 generations or so. Given the average life cycle of ich is 2 weeks, this could take almost 4 years (on average).

As you may have noticed, the timing for each stage to “move forward” to the next varies considerably. Therefore, ich is rarely in sync. For example, it is not unusual for a fish to be battling trophonts, while simultaneously theronts are swimming around looking for a host to feed on. This is especially true if your tank is plagued by more than one strain of ich. It’s this “perfect storm” that sometimes allows ich to overwhelm an immune system and the fish dies.

AWESOME POST

 

[scoopsthedog]

That is very real as well - my "spots" were on and off within 24 hours and then reappeared for a few hours in new locations. Upon close exam I saw they were sand