Mike Paletta/David Saxby settings for Radions

[medicw131]

So I want to try an experiment to see how well the saw-tooth lighting pattern works with growing corals. Mike Paletta has said he uses this pattern. My big question is what are his settings? I've looked for them, but only find that he has all lights at 100% for an hour then drops to all blue for an hour. I'd like to see the individual color schedule and time pattern, if anybody has any input!

 

[A. grandis]

I would try using the particular settings you're using now, specially if it's working, and slowly adapt it to the white/blues that he uses.
That said it would be simply alternating whites and blues through the day in a pattern.
It's already a change and the less you change with LEDs better are the chances for success.
Go slow...

 

[GoVols]

So I want to try an experiment to see how well the saw-tooth lighting pattern works with growing corals. Mike Paletta has said he uses this pattern. My big question is what are his settings? I've looked for them, but only find that he has all lights at 100% for an hour then drops to all blue for an hour. I'd like to see the individual color schedule and time pattern, if anybody has any input!

Did Saxby change from AI's?

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[Scrubber_steve]

The Bouncy Light Intensity Method
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-bouncy-light-intensity-method.431239/

 

[medicw131]

Did Saxby change from AI's?

http://www.aquaillumination.com/signature/

As far as I know, he has not. I just know Paletta uses a template similar to his. Can the AI program be imported into EcoSmart Live for Radions?

 

[medicw131]

Bump! Since AI and Ecotech are owned by the same parent company, would their light programming be compatable?

 

[reefwiser]

No David did not change from AI. He was hanging around with the AI folks all MACNA last year.
While they are owned by the same company that act like competitors. So they are not compatible at all.

 

[medicw131]

Aahh, bummer. Well, kind of lol.

 

[reefwiser]

There wouldn't be much point if AI was the same as Ecotech.

 

[medicw131]

Hey, I just think of it like Ford and Lincoln! Pretty much the same, owned by the same parent company, but one is just a little different than the other.

 

[DesertReefT4r]

Yep there is really no product blending between AI and EM led fixtures. Both still act like separate companies and have a different product. I wish EM would share some patent rights with AI especailly pump technology.

 

[Squamosa]

Yes, I use my own modified Radion ( 2x Gen3 pros) setting after talking to Mike after he got back from his trip to the UK.

Here is a screenshot of my settings.

I think it works

Cheers,
Tony

 

[ocboat]

Yes, I use my own modified Radion ( 2x Gen3 pros) setting after talking to Mike after he got back from his trip to the UK.

Here is a screenshot of my settings.

I think it works


Cheers,
Tony

Wow! That's very impressive. What percentage are your whites, green and red when they are not at 100%? Thanks.

 

[Squamosa]

What percentage are your whites, green and red when they are not at 100%?

They are at the AB+ settings in the toughs, but when the lights ramp up to 100% at the peaks, then all channels at 100%

 

[biecacka]

What % are they in the AB program.
Did you have to build up to the 100%?


Corey

 

[Squamosa]

What % are they in the AB program.

Intensity is 65%

Did you have to build up to the 100%?

No, I typically run 800 PAR or more at the top of the reef.

 

[Rst]

Yes, I use my own modified Radion ( 2x Gen3 pros) setting after talking to Mike after he got back from his trip to the UK.

Here is a screenshot of my settings.

I think it works

Cheers,
Tony

Hi Tony,
I think your tank is AMAZING!
I would like to use your lighting schedule for my new Radion G4 lights. How does your light schedule differ from from David Saxby? I thought that David Saxby uses a zig-zag pattern, has he changed his schedule from zig-zag? Does your light pattern more closely follow Mike Paletta instead?
To copy your settings, what 8 spectrum colors & percentages do I use for the Peaks and what 8 spectrum colors & percentages do I use for the Troughs? Are the 8 spectrum colors & percentages the same for both?

Thanks for sharing,
Ron Stein (Toronto, Ontario CANADA)

 

[Squamosa]

Hi Tony,
I think your tank is AMAZING!
I would like to use your lighting schedule for my new Radion G4 lights. How does your light schedule differ from from David Saxby? I thought that David Saxby uses a zig-zag pattern, has he changed his schedule from zig-zag? Does your light pattern more closely follow Mike Paletta instead?
To copy your settings, what 8 spectrum colors & percentages do I use for the Peaks and what 8 spectrum colors & percentages do I use for the Troughs? Are the 8 spectrum colors & percentages the same for both?

Thanks for sharing,
Ron Stein (Toronto, Ontario CANADA)

Hi Ron.

When I had a conversation with Mike, a long time ago, all the information he had was that David used a sawtooth pattern and so I devised a schedule.

Like I said, I didn't have much information to work with. Much more has since come to light, but I cannot be bothered trawling through all the threads.

I have friends who tried to emulate the pattern using Gen 4's and they told me you can't ramp up that fast?? I don't know, it's what they told me.

If you give me your email address in a PM, I will send you the file.

Cheers,
Tony

 

[Surfer311]

Yes, I use my own modified Radion ( 2x Gen3 pros) setting after talking to Mike after he got back from his trip to the UK.

Here is a screenshot of my settings.

I think it works

Cheers,
Tony

Impressive!

 

[Rst]

Hi Tony,
I think your tank is AMAZING!
I would like to use your lighting schedule for my new Radion G4 lights. How does your light schedule differ from from David Saxby? I thought that David Saxby uses a zig-zag pattern, has he changed his schedule from zig-zag? Does your light pattern more closely follow Mike Paletta instead?
To copy your settings, what 8 spectrum colors & percentages do I use for the Peaks and what 8 spectrum colors & percentages do I use for the Troughs? Are the 8 spectrum colors & percentages the same for both?

Thanks for sharing,
Ron Stein (Toronto, Ontario CANADA)

Hi Tony,
Thanks for your response. Unfortunately I have chosen to use Neptune Apex’s WXM wireless controller to setup & control my new Radion G4 Pro lights. As far as I can tell, there is absolutely no facility to automatically import all of the light settings from EcoSmart Live file and it’s format into my WXM’s controller. But luckily I have been able to manually convert & approximate most of the light timing settings from your provided graph posted above into my WXM’s setup. So far, my lighting graph now looks very similar to yours.

But that leaves me with guessing on what percentages to input for each of the 8 colors at each point of time change on the graph. So not knowing better, I just incorporated the color settings of the popular AB+ settings. So, for example, during the late mornings, afternoons & early evenings, all of the peak(intensity 100) & valley points(intensity 65) on the graph I use:
R 24%, G 24%, B 100%, RB 100%, UV 100%, CW 24%, WW 24%, V 100%

Do you have any way to represent your color spectrum settings that is similar to the way I have just written here in the line above? In an effort to simplify, I just would like to know a few of the key points where the spectrum first changes during the day and what that spectrum is. (I am assuming that the spectrum remains identical for most of the day)

I understand how difficult it might be to provide this info, so please just ignore my request if this would be time consuming. Color spectrums & schedules are likely impossible to know if ideal, but your success seems be a great place for me (and others) to start.

Thanks,
Ron Stein (Toronto Ontario CANADA)