Mike Paletta/David Saxby settings for Radions

[biecacka]

@Squamosa are you using t5 as well?

Corey

 

[Rst]

Hi Tony,
Here are the top and bottom screenshots of the WXM setup screen. The setup screen’s data points are too many to fit all on one picture, so below is the top and bottom half’s of my setup screen. Currently I only have from 12noon to 11pm graph completed. For each point of time that I highlight(17:40 highlighted), I then adjust the Color spectrum (one slider for each of the 8 colours as shown in the bottom screenshot)

 

[Squamosa]

WXM setup screen

Sorry mate, I'm not a technician, you lost me at WXM!

 

[Squamosa]

you using t5

Yes, 4x ATI (2x blue plus and 2x purple plus)

 

[Dana Riddle]

There is no doubt that beautiful reef tanks are maintained with the 'bouncy' lighting schedule. The only issue I have with it is when someone claims it is necessary (or even beneficial.) There are so many dynamics involved. I could write a paper on it. Oh, wait, I have.

 

[Rybren]

There is no doubt that beautiful reef tanks are maintained with the 'bouncy' lighting schedule. The only issue I have with it is when someone claims it is necessary (or even beneficial.) There are so many dynamics involved. I could write a paper on it. Oh, wait, I have.

Linky?

 

[ocboat]

@Rst - I don't own a WXM either but I think the important thing in @Squamosa schedule is that he runs all channels at 100% at the peaks and then back to the settings in your screen shot in the valleys. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Rst]

@Rst - I don't own a WXM either but I think the important thing in @Squamosa schedule is that he runs all channels at 100% at the peaks and then back to the settings in your screen shot in the valleys. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

Hi,
Thanks for this critical missing info that I didn’t know about. Previously, I had to just assume the spectrum used was similar to the popular AB+ spectrum.

Tony has just today, kindly sent me a copy of his ESL settings file. Now I will be able to load these settings and see the intensity and especially to spectrum settings for each of the 8 colours. Or I might actually prefer the ESL system instead. We will see. Nice to have the flexibility to try both.

Thanks for this info,
Ron

 

[Dana Riddle]

Linky?

This involves the maximum amount of light required:
https://www.advancedaquarist.com/2007/3/aafeature1
This one concerns the Daily Light Integral:
https://www.advancedaquarist.com/2013/12/lighting

 

[Rybren]

Thanks! Time for some light reading

 

[Rybren]

Thank you for those articles Dana. They are very enlightening (sorry, couldn't resist)

When I view the manufacturer provided spectral graphs for most LED fixtures, they closely resemble what you have observed for LEDs at 8" deep - except that most have a spike centred at 660nm. What I find interesting is that the spectral and DLI graphs for Type 1 seawater at 10 feet deep are quite different with more of a bell curve distribution and much greater intensity from about 470 to 600nm.

Do you have any thoughts on whether it would be beneficial to try and more closely emulate the lighting found at 10 feet in seawater?

As an aside, I have a 28G Zoa/Paly tank illuminated by two AI Primes that are running a variant of the David Saxby 'spikey' schedule. The zoas seem to be thriving with this light, but having never run anything else, I have no idea whether it is better or worse than a non-spikey schedule. I only went with the schedule because if it's good enough for Saxby, it's good enough for me
On my 120G mixed reef I run two cheap Black Box 'full spectrum' lights with manual 2 channel dimming. They're just on/off. The corals in this setup also seem to be thriving.
All this to say that in my limited situation, the spikey bits don't seem to matter.

 

[Dana Riddle]

Thank you for those articles Dana. They are very enlightening (sorry, couldn't resist)

When I view the manufacturer provided spectral graphs for most LED fixtures, they closely resemble what you have observed for LEDs at 8" deep - except that most have a spike centred at 660nm. What I find interesting is that the spectral and DLI graphs for Type 1 seawater at 10 feet deep are quite different with more of a bell curve distribution and much greater intensity from about 470 to 600nm.

Do you have any thoughts on whether it would be beneficial to try and more closely emulate the lighting found at 10 feet in seawater?

As an aside, I have a 28G Zoa/Paly tank illuminated by two AI Primes that are running a variant of the David Saxby 'spikey' schedule. The zoas seem to be thriving with this light, but having never run anything else, I have no idea whether it is better or worse than a non-spikey schedule. I only went with the schedule because if it's good enough for Saxby, it's good enough for me
On my 120G mixed reef I run two cheap Black Box 'full spectrum' lights with manual 2 channel dimming. They're just on/off. The corals in this setup also seem to be thriving.
All this to say that in my limited situation, the spikey bits don't seem to matter.

The 'spikey' method is simply based on the Rapid Light Curves established under different intensities. I've seen a video that made some claims about the benefits. Too bad they weren't true.
The experiments I did in Hawaii (in the extremely shallow tide pool filled with corals) was to establish a likely maximum intensity/spectral quality. I was criticized for my attempts for sing such a shallow depth, but then I suppose they didn't understand the nature of the procedure. With that said, I think the most important thing I learned in Hawaii was that understanding the minimum amount of light required by corals is more important that the maximum, hence the intensity found at 10 feet (or even 40 feet)would be a much better presentation of what we would want to shot for in an aquarium.

 

[Anthony_MC67]

Yes, I use my own modified Radion ( 2x Gen3 pros) setting after talking to Mike after he got back from his trip to the UK.

Here is a screenshot of my settings.

I think it works

Cheers,
Tony

Is mesmerizing from above. I am gonna buy the hybrid setup this January.

 

[TriggerFan]

Sorry for bringing this thread back from the dead! Just wondering if anyone was able to produce the settings on a Neptune Apex / WXM?