Mouth open torch :/

[RaymondsWorlddd]

I purchase this two head torch piece a few months ago. Recently, I started losing a lot of corals from idk what, possibly BJD. The death rate has greatly decreased but this torch continues to look like this. What does an open mouth mean? It still inflate but doesn’t get much bigger than it is. The other head’s mouth is closed. My remaining euphyllia look good

 

[Flippers4pups]

Have you seen it expelling any thing?

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

Have you seen it expelling any thing?

Nope

 

[Rogued_Reefer]

Ok so

• what are your water parameters?
• Any big changes prior to the issues starting in the tank?
• Did you check for stray voltage?

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

Ok so

• what are your water parameters?
• Any big changes prior to the issues starting in the tank?
• Did you check for stray voltage?

All water parameters are in check.
The tank did go through losing a few euphyllia which i don’t know why but I was think BJD but that has seemed to stop.
I have not checked for stray voltage. Would that affect just one coral or would I expect it to affect everything in the tank?

 

[Rogued_Reefer]

All water parameters are in check.
The tank did go through losing a few euphyllia which i don’t know why but I was think BJD but that has seemed to stop.
I have not checked for stray voltage. Would that affect just one coral or would I expect it to affect everything in the tank?

What does in check mean? I personally like to know exact parameters if trying to help someone.

yes stray voltage can affect some corals more than others and could even be the cause of your “BJD” in the first place.

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

What does in check mean? I personally like to know exact parameters if trying to help someone.

yes stray voltage can affect some corals more than others and could even be the cause of your “BJD” in the first place.

I’ll look into testing for stray voltage as I have never done that or even thought about that. Thank you! I was thinking it could be the “BJD” too but my other ones affected by it were gone within hours and this one has been doing this mouth thing for about a week or two already.
As far as the labs, everything is good. Not that it’s a pet peeve of mine, but I’m looking what could be potential causes of this issue with the coral. If I give you a lab that is abnormal, of course that’s going to be my concern and I’ll try to fix that. I’m wanting to know what the potential causes could be. Does that make sense?
Thank you for your help!

 

[Rogued_Reefer]

It doesn’t make sense... the number one cause of any problem in a reef tank is poor water quality. If you want answers to help you figure out the cause saying the parameters are all in check and not giving actual numbers doesn’t help the people trying to help you but ok.

good luck and hopefully you find your answers.

happy Reefing

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

It doesn’t make sense... the number one cause of any problem in a reef tank is poor water quality. If you want answers to help you figure out the cause saying the parameters are all in check and not giving actual numbers doesn’t help the people trying to help you but ok.

good luck and hopefully you find your answers.

happy Reefing

I’m looking for suggestions on what to check, not so much a diagnosis. It’s very easy for someone to point at an obvious abnormal result and say that’s to blame. I’m looking for a list of potential causes. I guess it’s hard for me to explain what I’m really looking for. But if I know lights, flow, and water is good, what other things could be causing the coral to look like this?

 

[Fishbro]

Do you have test kits you could test your parameters with? Things like Nitrates, pH, calcium, Alkalinity, phosphate, possibly ammonia?

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

Do you have test kits you could test your parameters with? Things like Nitrates, pH, calcium, Alkalinity, phosphate, possibly ammonia?

Yes, I do. And everything is within normal range and has been stable. Again, if water wasn’t the issue, what else could be causing the mouth on this torch to be open like that? Has this happened to anybody else? Is this most likely part of the BJD process or is it a sign of the coral dying?

 

[Flippers4pups]

I’m looking for suggestions on what to check, not so much a diagnosis. It’s very easy for someone to point at an obvious abnormal result and say that’s to blame. I’m looking for a list of potential causes. I guess it’s hard for me to explain what I’m really looking for. But if I know lights, flow, and water is good, what other things could be causing the coral to look like this?

Water chemistry is very high on the list of potential causes. Knowing exactly what they are is key. It helps us narrow down and possibly eliminate that as a cause of stress to the coral. Respectfully, not sharing that with us doesn't help us help you.

The want to help is genuine here, but most if not all of us are of us understand that water parameters and RO/DI source water, light intensity with proper spectrum and proper photoperiod schedule, age of the tank, flow, health of corals purchased before placement in our DT, overall husbandry, stability of your tank, bacterial strains, potential contamination from outside sources, pests and strict coral dipping practices......etc

All and more can contribute to coral stress. Without those water parameters to work with, well it's just a guessing game and doesn't help us help you.

Said in all do respect to you.

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

Water chemistry is very high on the list of potential causes. Knowing exactly what they are is key. It helps us narrow down and possibly eliminate that as a cause of stress to the coral. Respectfully, not sharing that with us doesn't help us help you.

The want to help is genuine here, but most if not all of us are of us understand that water parameters and RO/DI source water, light intensity with proper spectrum and proper photoperiod schedule, age of the tank, flow, health of corals purchased before placement in our DT, overall husbandry, stability of your tank, bacterial strains, potential contamination from outside sources, pests and strict coral dipping practices......etc

All and more can contribute to coral stress. Without those water parameters to work with, well it's just a guessing game and doesn't help us help you.

Said in all do respect to you.

I totally understand what you and the others are saying. How does me saying everything is normal versus me listing every normal result different? I know you all are great at helping and I greatly appreciate it. I guess I can rephrase my original question. I’m not wanting to know why MY torch’s mouth is open, but rather...what would cause a torch’s mouth to open like this? Abnormal results is one. What else could cause this? Is this a sign of it dying?

 

[Flippers4pups]

I totally understand what you and the others are saying. How does me saying everything is normal versus me listing every normal result different? I know you all are great at helping and I greatly appreciate it. I guess I can rephrase my original question. I’m not wanting to know why MY torch’s mouth is open, but rather...what would cause a torch’s mouth to open like this? Abnormal results is one. What else could cause this? Is this a sign of it dying?

Respectfully, everything I listed could cause it be stressed. Gaping mouth for extend periods of time is a sign of stress.

Have a great day and happy reefing.

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

Respectfully, everything I listed could cause it be stressed. Gaping mouth for extend periods of time is a sign of stress.

Have a great day and happy reefing.

So it’s a sign of stress. Thank you! I wasn’t sure if this was something normal or if this was a sign of imminent death. I can deal with stress haha. Ill keep a close eye on it and continue to keep everything stable. Thank you!

 

[Flippers4pups]

So it’s a sign of stress. Thank you! I wasn’t sure if this was something normal or if this was a sign of imminent death. I can deal with stress haha. Ill keep a close eye on it and continue to keep everything stable. Thank you!

Also a sign its on its way out. Unfortunately.

 

[RaymondsWorlddd]

Also a sign its on its way out. Unfortunately.

Would you recommend I remove this head at this point? The other head looks fine. Or is it okay if I leave it in the tank to give it time to heal and remove it if it gets worse?

 

[Flippers4pups]

Would you recommend I remove this head at this point? The other head looks fine. Or is it okay if I leave it in the tank to give it time to heal and remove it if it gets worse?

You could try dipping it in Lugol's solution, but there's something causing the stress. Needs to be found.

 

[Elitecorals]

I had similar situation when my hammer has its mouth while open, I though my water is in check and other corals doing well, checked my alk, Cal, mag are 9.5,480,1380 and phosphate is 0.08 and my nitrate is 100 ppm, turn out my nitrate is way too high and did multiple water change and not knowing that my rodi is bad and here came the dino that affected all the corals, keep thinking only the nitrate that cause the corals not happy now it the dino ....like other said, if you don't give out the information no one would know how to diagnose your tank.

 

[JonnyTorch]

I just wanted to say, even though this is a dead thread, it's unfortunate that I came here looking for answers and the guy never even posted his params, so now after reading all of this I got nothing. Smh