My 30 gallon fishtank

[Currently a noob]

I have posted on here about ick before and I believe its gone, but I have another problem and I feel very stressed because of it. I currently have two goldfish one is a common goldfish and one is a telescope goldfish. The telescope goldfish always floats upside down and it may have swim bladder disease, one problem is she floats to the top and starts gulping air, this is due to the water not having enough air in it or something, and me not being able to afford another airstone/pump and mostly all fish supplies besides food. I always see her gulping on the top of the surface of the water and same with the common goldfish. The tank water right now is very dirty and that is mainly because they are too goldfish in a 30 gallon and I plan on buying them a 100 gallon soon but the problem is, still low on money sadly. I've had these fish for about two and a half years and I really care about them and I want them to live. I got these fish from Petco, and the common goldfish has some body injuries and his lips are damaged mainly from when I had rocks and he always liked to dig with his mouth and ended up damaging tissue. I plan on finding a job but I am only 15. I am almost certain there are people in this community that know enough to hopefully help me. I just want to know what I can do meanwhile. Until I can get what I need. The most important things that help their health will be bought ASAP.

Two fish as you can see, one upside-down and the other next to it under the filter. They aren't dead but are suffering and I want to do everything I can to help them. I am no expert and have little experience. I'm sorry for the long post.

 

[gray808]

Is the tank filled with orange juice?

Personally, it sounds like you are not in the position to be taking care of fish. An airstone is like 5$ at PetCo. Water should be pretty close to free. Those fish look like they are drowning in their own filth.

Bare minimum: change the water. Then keep changing it to keep it clean and clear. Would you want to live in your own waste?

--Gray

 

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I don't think fish can survive in orange juice. .-.

 

[Salemsoul]

I don't even know where to begin. . Water is unacceptable and needs to be changed until nearly clear. In your arsenal you should always keep bottled bacteria, something like prime that binds to ammonia for a short time to make it non toxic and an emergency kit filled with Epsom salts, kanaplex and metroplex (or alternative broad spectrum medications).

I understand you really care about these animals, but our need and emotional attachment to an animal should never come before the health and well being of said animal. Please consider rehoming them.

Clean the water and then we can deal with the potential swim bladder issue. We should not look to medicate a fish in waste water like the one you have now.

 

[Currently a noob]

Is the tank filled with orange juice?

Personally, it sounds like you are not in the position to be taking care of fish. An airstone is like 5$ at PetCo. Water should be pretty close to free. Those fish look like they are drowning in their own filth.

Bare minimum: change the water. Then keep changing it to keep it clean and clear. Would you want to live in your own waste?

--Gray

I agree I'm not in the position but I started two years ago and never expected them to last this long. Cloudy water is because the filter stopped working.

 

[Currently a noob]

I don't even know where to begin. . Water is unacceptable and needs to be changed until nearly clear. In your arsenal you should always keep bottled bacteria, something like prime that binds to ammonia for a short time to make it non toxic and an emergency kit filled with Epsom salts, kanaplex and metroplex (or alternative broad spectrum medications).

I understand you really care about these animals, but our need and emotional attachment to an animal should never come before the health and well being of said animal. Please consider rehoming them.

Clean the water and then we can deal with the potential swim bladder issue. We should not look to medicate a fish in waste water like the one you have now.

I am considering rehoming them, I need to find the right person

 

[IanK]

Change 100% of that water

 

[gray808]

Find someone to take them.

Otherwise, you are just torturing them.

--Gray

 

[fishybizzness]

Wow

 

[Salemsoul]

I am considering rehoming them, I need to find the right person

please remove the waste water and provide clean ammonia free water so we can begin the process of medicating the fish with a swim bladder infection. If you are unable to provide that immediately, I would be more than happy to help you find someone who can take them through courtesy postings. Many of us are apart of large FW fish groups that can be of assistance.

 

[fishybizzness]

Troll?

 

[Jonify]

Do not spend money on a new tank. Your problem is water quality, not tank size. I have loads of supplies. What do you need? A new filter? Some water conditioner so you can completely drain and re-fill your tank so your fish aren't swimming in their own waste?

 

[Currently a noob]

I don't even know where to begin. . Water is unacceptable and needs to be changed until nearly clear. In your arsenal you should always keep bottled bacteria, something like prime that binds to ammonia for a short time to make it non toxic and an emergency kit filled with Epsom salts, kanaplex and metroplex (or alternative broad spectrum medications).

I understand you really care about these animals, but our need and emotional attachment to an animal should never come before the health and well being of said animal. Please consider rehoming them.

Clean the water and then we can deal with the potential swim bladder issue. We should not look to medicate a fish in waste water like the one you have now.

Also I care about there health but

Troll?

Your funny, no sadly

 

[Currently a noob]

Do not spend money on a new tank. Your problem is water quality, not tank size. I have loads of supplies. What do you need? A new filter? Some water conditioner so you can completely drain and re-fill your tank so your fish aren't swimming in their own waste?

It is tank size, the common goldfish's body length reaches one side of the tank to the other in width head to tip of the tail

 

[Jonify]

It is tank size, the common goldfish's body length reaches one side of the tank to the other in width head to tip of the tail

Hmm...I'm getting the feeling we can't help you. Best thing you can do is take those fish back to the store.

 

[Currently a noob]

I don't even know where to begin. . Water is unacceptable and needs to be changed until nearly clear. In your arsenal you should always keep bottled bacteria, something like prime that binds to ammonia for a short time to make it non toxic and an emergency kit filled with Epsom salts, kanaplex and metroplex (or alternative broad spectrum medications).

I understand you really care about these animals, but our need and emotional attachment to an animal should never come before the health and well being of said animal. Please consider rehoming them.

Clean the water and then we can deal with the potential swim bladder issue. We should not look to medicate a fish in waste water like the one you have now.

I have this tank here and I was wondering if it would be best if I cleaned this up and re sealed it, then that way the fish would be in clear water to begin with before I fix my problems

Hmm...I'm getting the feeling we can't help you. Best thing you can do is take those fish back to the store.

 

[ScubaFish802]

It looks like you should start by doing a large water change.
It may be wise to see if your LFS would take them for now until you are in a better position to take care of fish.

It is tank size, the common goldfish's body length reaches one side of the tank to the other in width head to tip of the tail

They will not last that long unless you can start by getting them in cleaner water. If changing the water in this smaller tank is overwhelming, just imaging doing a water change on a 100 gallon tank as you mentioned.
As others have said, step one is to get them in clean water or they will not have any chance to recover.

 

[Currently a noob]

Hmm...I'm getting the feeling we can't help you. Best thing you can do is take those fish back to the store.

Sorry I agree with you about using my money for what I need, I was stating that my plan was to get them a bigger tank, I will definitely clean it out and do everything I can and go on from there.

 

[Salemsoul]

I have this tank here and I was wondering if it would be best if I cleaned this up and re sealed it, then that way the fish would be in clear water to begin with before I fix my problems

Change current water now and then seal up the larger tank. Them sitting in waste water that bad is a genuine emergency

 

[Currently a noob]

It looks like you should start by doing a large water change.
It may be wise to see if your LFS would take them for now until you are in a better position to take care of fish.

They will not last that long unless you can start by getting them in cleaner water. If changing the water in this smaller tank is overwhelming, just imaging doing a water change on a 100 gallon tank as you mentioned.
As others have said, step one is to get them in clean water or they will not have any chance to recover.

I hear ya, I am going to do that ASAP, water changes are overwhelming because I don't have everything I need to make it 100% successful

Change current water now and then seal up the larger tank. Them sitting in waste water that bad is a genuine emergency

Ok