my fish are gonna die

[navila06]

nothing can be done I am not qt ready. my flame angel, kole tang, and blue tang all have white spots on them bad. koletang is pale and skinny, and not eating as aggressive as before. blue and angel are still eating well but are pretty much covered. Crazy thing is just this past Saturday everything was great, fish were looking healthy as ever, I even took some good pics sat to show off to friends and family then BAM downhill, in just a few days. Sad-frustrated-reefer, I feel sorry for my pets. :cry:

 

[kateater]

I just recently battled this. I added Kent Zoa to the food and to the tank 11 days later fish doing great. While they are still eating it would be worth a shot to help their immune system. Make sure you feed a variety of healthy food and keep pristine water conditions.

 

[Genesis Corals]

Go to Petco and buy two 20 gallon tanks (they have their $1 a gallon sale), 2 small powerheads, and 2 small heaters. Look up the tank transfer method and save those fish. The hard part is going to leave your tank fallow for 8 to 10 weeks to get rid of the ich in the DT. With only two fish in a QT you should be able to keep the ammonia down with water changes. Good luck, I just went through this myself and lost several hundred dollars of fish. I will for now on quarantine not only fish (which I did prior), but also corals and inverts.

 

[navila06]

I have a total, of nine fish. the three mentioned are the only fish with visible issues, the other 6 look normal and are acting normal. I will try the kent zoa today, I can really afford to buy qt for 9 fish, i am gonna wait it out and hope for the best. I am feeding a variety of food, and my water is pretty good atm.

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[pickupman66]

Do you have alot of corals and inverts? If not why not do hyposalinity in your tank?

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[navila06]

I do have many corals and inverts. it just amazes me on how quick this escalated, the link below is pics of the tank just this past sunday. all was good,

guess it was the calm before the storm.

https://www.reef2reef.com/forums/reef-aquarium-discussion/126838-few-pics-my-tank.html

Do you have alot of corals and inverts? If not why not do hyposalinity in your tank?

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[jmann124]

One issue could be that there is a hippo tang in a 55g tank. Tangs are prone to Ich anyway. So putting one in a tank that is way too small for it is just asking for trouble. You could have a case where a fish that is stressing has kinda lashed out at other fish, due to irritation from ich, and stressed the others out. I use Kordons Ich Away. But I never see more than a spot or two on my fish, for no more than a day or two. I don't know what your filtration is, but it must be good to have low parameters like that with 9 fish in a 55.


-Joey

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[navila06]

I read somewhere the recommended tank size for a blue tang, but i have always kept blues in a 55, going on many years of it, this is just the first time ever dealing with one with white spots. Ill look up kordon ich treatment, but I believe it's too late. I don't have much to my filtration 60lbs of live rock, filter sock, skimmer, two reactors, one with carbon one with phosban.

 

[Mike J.]

:mod: Blue Tang max. size - 12", recommended tank size - 180 gallons. "but, I have always kept blues in a 55, going on many years of it ..." Implying that that you've kept more than one. I'm going to have to call you on this. If you show me a photo of a "blue" taken many years ago I'll apologize. If you truly want help you'll have to be honest. In your own posts you imply that you haven't done anything with that tank except the last six months. Do you really think that we're all naïve?

I read somewhere the recommended tank size for a blue tang, but i have always kept blues in a 55, going on many years of it, this is just the first time ever dealing with one with white spots. Ill look up kordon ich treatment, but I believe it's too late. I don't have much to my filtration 60lbs of live rock, filter sock, skimmer, two reactors, one with carbon one with phosban.

 

[navila06]

wow and lol...I'm just gonna say, i have not kept a blue in a tank small tank for more than 3 years. they get too big. I did not ask for help. Just posting the pain away. i didnt do much to it the first six months other than fight a GHA issue. Am I on trial?

 

[Mike J.]

You're not on trial, but, because of the offensive nature of my post, I knew I would be. Your post is full of red flags. This is the first time I have ever called someone out. If you knew me, you'd know how easy going I am. Let's just say I've kept many blues in a 55 for years - I'd sure enough know how to treat for ich. I'd know how big they got and I'd know that they couldn't even turn around in a 55. I surely wouldn't be looking into a snake oil cure in a bottle. After having kept blues for many years I'd know how to take care of them and wouldn't subject them to torture because I'd have empathy for my pets.

 

[NanaReefer]

I feel sorry for your pets also Good luck and please keep us posted. Hope they all pull through....


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[navila06]

just like this being your first call out this is my first blue tang with white spots. this is also my first time on r2r trial. lesson learned. thanks mod.

 

[navila06]

thank you, I will.

I feel sorry for your pets also Good luck and please keep us posted. Hope they all pull through....


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[bct15]

I have to agree here, a blue tang in a 55 is a ticking time bomb...a blue tang, another tang and 7 more fish in a 55 is even worse. If the fish is not completely free of all parasites and deseases before going in that small of a tank it will eventually stress and break out, stress the tank mates and cause others to break out. That tank is just to small for that fish.

All of that being said, I have seen fish to amazing turnarounds as far as ich. You need to feed them heavy, twice a day, with seaweed once a day. This extra feeding will call for larger weekly water changes, 20%. Add a little garlic soak (1 to 2 drops) to one feeding every two to three days. If you do this the fish can try to fight it off naturally. I've had More success doing this than catching and treating the fish separately.

 

[navila06]

would it hurt to do the garlic soak daily?

I have to agree here, a blue tang in a 55 is a ticking time bomb...a blue tang, another tang and 7 more fish in a 55 is even worse. If the fish is not completely free of all parasites and deseases before going in that small of a tank it will eventually stress and break out, stress the tank mates and cause others to break out. That tank is just to small for that fish.

All of that being said, I have seen fish to amazing turnarounds as far as ich. You need to feed them heavy, twice a day, with seaweed once a day. This extra feeding will call for larger weekly water changes, 20%. Add a little garlic soak (1 to 2 drops) to one feeding every two to three days. If you do this the fish can try to fight it off naturally. I've had More success doing this than catching and treating the fish separately.

 

[Mike J.]

Well, at least this is a turn in the right direction. Much better than "my fish are gonna die", "nothing can be done I am not qt ready", "I am gonna wait it out and hope for the best." Can you see why I was a little irked?

 

[bct15]

would it hurt to do the garlic soak daily?

Do not do garlic soak daily, to much garlic is worse than none. It can compromise the fishes immune system, cause internal damage to the digestive system, and diminish water quality. A little goes a long way.

Edit: keep in mind that the fish that are to large will remain stressed and will be at risk for a breakout again in the future. After they look better you might want to consider an upgrade or rehousing some of the "larger" fish. This will benefit your wallet, your tank, your piece of mind, and the fish.

 

[navila06]

It's all good, just kinda freaked out, wrote this thread up in a few seconds and went to bed, so my choice of words are rough. My buddy went to my house and texted me this while I am at work "He is huffing n puffing under the crusty coral rock all grey looking" I think it's too late for the kole. my buddy also told me the angel and blue all came up to the glass like they always do looking for food. When i get home i am going to give them the biggest garlic soak feast they ever had.

Well, at least this is a turn in the right direction. Much better than "my fish are gonna die", "nothing can be done I am not qt ready", "I am gonna wait it out and hope for the best." Can you see why I was a little irked?

 

[navila06]

ok thanks, not good daily, so every 2 to 3 days is best.

Do not do garlic soak daily, to much garlic is worse than none. It can compromise the fishes immune system, cause internal damage to the digestive system, and diminish water quality. A little goes a long way.

Edit: keep in mind that the fish that are to large will remain stressed and will be at risk for a breakout again in the future. After they look better you might want to consider an upgrade or rehousing some of the "larger" fish. This will benefit your wallet, your tank, your piece of mind, and the fish.