Named vs no name corals

[Madreef]

You have a good point PR but technically many same color and species have different designer names so a name has no use other than marketing in some cases.

Funny you say that. Normally I point and ask how much? I'm interested in the scientific/common name or what colors a certain species is commonly found in and uncommonly found in. The more rare an item them more I'll pay, only to an extent. They are from the ocean there are more. If an item commands a very high price then it's likely to be grown out and shared. Thus lowering the price and increasing the availability.

 

[PR_Reefers]

I totally know what you mean... I was just messin hehe...but that's why I said about renaming the poll the designer names are what the people usually pay more for... and you're right I would pay more also for an unnamed coral assuming it's something new and rare

 

[mallorieGgator]

I buy what I like and what I can afford. It doesn't matter to me if it's named or not. If it's cool, I buy it. I've seen lots of named stuff that I think is ugly.

 

[litenyaup]

i buy what i like and i like what i buy..

+1. I will put in my tank what I think looks cool and not what others say is cool via a name....Also I will not spend a exuberant amount of money on any coral. I know the price will eventually go down so I will eventually get that expensive coral.

 

[FaviaFreak]

A lot of the named corals are extremely nice, than again some of them are ehh? Unless your a wholesaler, retailer, or in cahoots with either than your chances of finding a diamond in the rough at your LFS are slim, most nice corals don't get past the wholesalers tanks before they get snatched up. So most hobbyist are at the mercy of paying high dollar for named corals.

 

[Troylee]

Man I know your not talking about meh!!!! Don't make me come over there for you ahahahahahah... Yeah Kevin told me name them what I want when i asked... I suck at polyps is why I asked... I just went with nice hawaiian Palys... Lol

I stopped naming my Zoas and I saw a drop in sales. The orders that did come in all were followed up with an email asking for names.

Love it or hate it... Names are here to stay.

Kevin

Sent from my Droid before the battery died.

 

[gar732]

The benefit to named corals is that they are usually hardier, aquacultured corals. Unnamed corals are usually wild caught corals. The name also helps to keep track of a certain coral. It's much easier than asking for the pink chalice with the green eyes and a green rim. There are quite a few that fit that description and I might end up with a different chalice than what I'm looking for. That being said, the most expensive coral I own was $350 for the frag, my favorite and best looking was $10. I think it is definitely worth looking past the names but they do serve their purpose. The branding of corals is what I believe drives the price up but that is a whole different thread, lol.

 

[Troylee]

Gonna completely disagree man^^^^^^^^^ 90 percent of the corals hitting the market now have a name... Back in the day yeah it meant aquaculture but far from it now...:sad: times have changed!!!

 

[gar732]

I guess I mean the more known corals, the names that most people know. I know what you mean though, I see wild colonies cut up and a name thrown on them.

 

[Dave3112]

Gonna completely disagree man^^^^^^^^^ 90 percent of the corals hitting the market now have a name... Back in the day yeah it meant aquaculture but far from it now...:sad: times have changed!!!

I totally agree with your statement!

Slightly off topic but are there any TRUE 100 percent aquaculture companies out there anymore? Besides ORA. I mean most places say aquacultured but they prolly have had the coral less than 6 months and just cut up a wild colony and let it encrust a frag plug... I mean really aquacultured. Like no part of the wild colony left in the frag sold to the consumer.

 

[Madreef]

ORA is the largest and most well known, but there's lots of smaller systems out there. If you think about it just about every one of us has a tank where we grow coral so we all are hopefully contributing to aquaculture. Once you've been keeping corals long enough you know the value of a tank raised coral is much higher than a wild one. Yet the wild ones cost more on average. Go figure.

 

[Sea MunnKey]

In Canada ... there's tons of No Name Corals ... PERIOD!!

Paul

 

[LBA]

I always told myself id stay out of these kind of posts but the tangents they go on are sometimes disheartening.

In my opinion consumers have contributed to changing the game and not so much all on vendors. Unless it's cutting edge, crazy colors, it sits around until we discount it below what we really need to sell it for to cover our overhead. Like it or not we (vendors) don't always get to pick what have to buy. It would be extremely difficult for venders to aquaculture everything and keep up with the consumers desires while keeping prices as low as possible... So just keep it in mind if you want your good vendors that go above and beyond to bring quality corals to stay in business.

On topic I did an experiment. During our open house I stuck a really nice chalice frag in the $10 bin for kicks... Sold three at full retail price.... The one in the $10 bin is still there lol

 

[Lynnmw1208]

I only like the names so I can tell the particular corals apart when it comes time for me to frag and trade/sell. I pick corals that I like rather than depend on names. I won't pay outrageous prices for corals just because they're named tho! I mean I got fire in the sky zoanthids for $10 and I didn't even know until I identified them online! I just thought they looked nice.

 

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On topic I did an experiment. During our open house I stuck a really nice chalice frag in the $10 bin for kicks... Sold three at full retail price.... The one in the $10 bin is still there lol

Awesomely telling experiment. I'm sure it wont be in there much longer after this:wink:.

 

[skinz78]

I could care less what name the coral has, if I like it I buy it. In my opinion if it looks like a certain named coral but can't be proven big deal. If it walks and quacks like a duck must be a duck... I think people take the name game too seriously with lineage and all and they are doing no good for this hobby in doing so.

 

[BlazinNano]

I think names are important. Not to jack the price up though. Say I really want a certain zoa. It has a name. I see threads of people who have this zoa from the original vendor and they are all melting. Now because of the name I know not to buy that zoa. Now on the flip side I want the same zoa same name and everyone is posting they grow super fast well because it has a name and people are tracking it I know that it is a good zoa to own.

Now with what was brought up about aquaculture and 100%. No vendor could ever live off of 100% aquaculture now ora does it. But ora has limited things and a lot are fish. The trends in this hobby always change. You don't see ora posting all the latest and greatest aquacultured chalices and zoas. No on could grow them fast enough. If a vendor bought 20 chalices and grew them till they where 100% aquacultured no one would want chalices anymore. Now as hobbiest we can make things aquacultured and we all do. Something grows we cut it, sell or trade it. But how many of us have bought a coral kept it for 6 months and sold a frag for more then we bought it for? If you buy a tyree space monster zoa, just one polyp next month can you sell the baby for twice as much as you bought the original for? In my opinion there will never be a company who is 100% aquaculturing the top of the line corals because the top of the line corals are always changing.

Sorry for the rant.......