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Don’t know what this is was concerned less than a week ago but now this guy is on his death bed
Need help pls
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Looks like a severe case of flukes. I'd get him a fresh water dip for 5 - 7 minutes and then into a quarantine system and treat two rounds of prazipro. The FWD will identify flukes, they will fall off and look like opaque sesame seeds.
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Yeah, looks like flukes to me... I would follow the treatment plan given by @pathot984.
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Get this fish into freshwater the same temperature as your tank for about 5 minutes and return fish to display.
Look on bottom of bucket and see if you see what looks like sesame seeds. Will confirm flukes.
If not, may be secondary bacterial.
Look on bottom of bucket and see if you see what looks like sesame seeds. Will confirm flukes.
If not, may be secondary bacterial.
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My wife just informed me he didn’t make it. I left for work after taking that picture but knew he wasn’t doing good. He wouldn’t even swim. Now I’m worried for the other tank mates.
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Take a look at the sticky at the top of this section, or click on the link below my name. It helps if you can provide as much background info as possible.
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Jay
p.s. - sorry the fish didn't make it, but you're right, we want to try and ensure the rest of the fish are protected!
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75g with a 30g sump total water volume is 92gallons
Ph is 8.4
Temp is 77-78
Sg 1.026
Ammonia is 0ppm
Nitrite 0ppm
Nitrate is 5 to 10 ppm
Other fish are 2 b&w clowns
And a melanurus wrasse
The tang was a chocolate
Tank has been running with fish for 3 months post cycle
Filtration is just filter socks and skimmer also have chaeto growing.
the tang was the only one that has shown symptoms. He was swimming funny last week then noticed he started scratching on the substrate. Then started swimming into the power heads then would go sit behind them. Ate fine until yesterday. I was thinking ich or velvet. Setup a qt over the weekend put him in it last night because he was barely swimming this morning he just laid on the bottom breathing hard. I was going to slowly get all fish into the qt then use cp to treat for velvet/ich but now not sure what to do since he didn’t survive
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I would agree with the others, this sounds like it could have been flukes. I base this on the relatively long timeline, the spots n the pictures and the report that the fish was flashing. Some flukes are specific to certain species, so your wrasse and clowns may or may not become infected. If you want to treat them as a preventative, you could dose the tank 2x with prazipro. It will kill worms, and you need to increase aeration....
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Jay should I put them in my qt and dose the prazipro
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It depends- you have to weigh the risk to the animals in your DT from the prazi to the risk of holding the fish in a QT for a long period (at least a month- two weeks treatment and 2?weeks observation).
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So in the dt I’ve now just got the clowns and a wrasse. A few zoa’s. Some chromis, a hammer a mushroom and cuc. Would prazi in the dt adversely affect anything. I do have the qt up and running now so if it would be better I can move them just not sure what to do at this point. I’m really new to the hobby and the clowns where the first fish we’ve owned. My 5 year olds picked them out so I don’t want to risk losing them if there is no need to stress them. My only other option is to just keep the qt running and have the meds on hand and if I see signs on the other fish then treat.
what’s weird is we had the tang for a month before it showed any signs and was really healthy
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Flukes do take time to kill fish, so a month is about right.
I think you should have the drugs on hand, and keep the QT running. If the fish don’t show symptoms, don’t do anything! Is you start to see rapid breathing, skin discoloration, tattered fins, then decide to dose either way!at that point. This keeps as many options open as possible.
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I think you should have the drugs on hand, and keep the QT running. If the fish don’t show symptoms, don’t do anything! Is you start to see rapid breathing, skin discoloration, tattered fins, then decide to dose either way!at that point. This keeps as many options open as possible.
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@Jay Hemdal lost my pair of clowns this morning they looked fine last night other than like they had fuzz on them. Ate fine last night and everything. Got up this morning and the both looked horrible pulled and did a fw dip for 5 min temp and ph to match. Saw nothing in the bucket put back in the tank and within 30 min both had died.
pic of the last one to go. I’m not sure what is going on but that’s 3 fish in less than a week.
pic of the last one to go. I’m not sure what is going on but that’s 3 fish in less than a week.
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Sorry to hear. If a FW dip kills a clownfish, that means it was very close to dying at that point. You didn’t see any rapid breathing in the clowns last night? I’m trying to keep track - there is still a wrasse and some green chromis in the tank? How do they look? Common wisdom is the only disease that goes from no symptoms to death in 24 hours is Amyloodinium, velvet. Trouble is, rapid breathing is the key symptom. The dead clownfish itself kind of shows evidence of another protozoan disease; Brooklynella, and indeed, that hits clowns hard, however- it shows white milky skin a few days first, and I don’t see it except in newly acquired clowns.
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No rapid breathing last night and I was thinking velvet even with the chocolate tang. The wrasse and chromis look fine. The wrasse keeps going up infront of the power head. I pulled him from the tank a min ago and put him in my qt with copper power. It’s at 1ppm verified with Hanna checker. I can’t catch the chromis but I’m gonna attempt to again in a little bit trying to let them settle back down. I rechecked all levels and the only thing high is nitrates at 10 to 20 ppm. Which the clowns have been in since August.
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I’m at a complete loss I don’t want to lose more fish and now I am pretty sure I need to go fallow. Also I learned to never put fish into dt without going through qt
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The nosing into the powerhead is a symptom of Velvet, or of low dissolved oxygen. However, the milky caste to the clowns reinforce the velvet diagnosis.
Due to the speed at which this disease progresses, you need to ignore the idea of "ramping your copper up slowly" - you need to get to a full dose of copper right away.
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