NEW NEW FROM APEX!!!!
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Without onboard variable speed/dimming ports not really worth 500.00. That means no power head control or led dimming and leds is what most people have. That means a module which pushes up the price.
They could have left something else off but dimming.. They did this because they know people will have to buy one. I think this will be discontinued just like the Apex lite was. Two close in price once you add dimming.
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mitch91175
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Didn't even realize that. You'd think that they would just have the same unit as the full just without the orp/conductivity probe. I'd image that they should have decreased the cost of producing it by now. To have to create another mold and PCB might have cost them more than just selling the same head in the "EL" package.
Yea or packaged it with with four outlets since it is lite and for those who do not need a full system. Like I said in the DA gone thread I have a need for a cheap system like DA lite to run my 3 aquaculture systems and I do not need 3 full expensive systems. I also do not want to run them on one system so if it fails I loose all 3 systems. My only choice is the JR which is still allot more than the DA lite.
LobsterOfJustice
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I think some of you are missing the point...
The EL is analogous to the "Lite" version of the Apex classic. It is an opportunity to get the same "brain" CPU and an EB832 for a much more budget friendly price. The great thing about the Apex is that you can add functionality to fit your needs with modules. If I had to jump into the controller world at the $800 price point, I might still not have a controller. But I picked up the Classic Lite a few years before it was discontinued and I have added functionality to my system over time.
The three things which separate the EL from the full model - ORP, Conductivity, and VSP - can be added over time with modules. If you need these things right off the bat, then pick up the full model (at the full price). Many of us probably already have these modules anyway from a prior apex system.
The Apex EL is no comparison to the Jr. The fact that the EL is compatible with EB832 opens up seamless compatibility with DOS and WAV, the EL will be compatible with trident, has wireless, and is fully controllable/configurable through fusion, and the Jr brain is limited to 7 modules.
The EL is analogous to the "Lite" version of the Apex classic. It is an opportunity to get the same "brain" CPU and an EB832 for a much more budget friendly price. The great thing about the Apex is that you can add functionality to fit your needs with modules. If I had to jump into the controller world at the $800 price point, I might still not have a controller. But I picked up the Classic Lite a few years before it was discontinued and I have added functionality to my system over time.
The three things which separate the EL from the full model - ORP, Conductivity, and VSP - can be added over time with modules. If you need these things right off the bat, then pick up the full model (at the full price). Many of us probably already have these modules anyway from a prior apex system.
The Apex EL is no comparison to the Jr. The fact that the EL is compatible with EB832 opens up seamless compatibility with DOS and WAV, the EL will be compatible with trident, has wireless, and is fully controllable/configurable through fusion, and the Jr brain is limited to 7 modules.
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Unless you are running ozone (is anyone still running ozone?), ORP is mostly useless anyhow. Salinity can be helpful as a monitor/alert, even if the probe has a tendency to veer off occasionally. Interesting, BTW, that Neptune uses 'monitor' and 'alert' more often in their marketing copy rather than 'control'. Maybe they have always done this - I generally don't read marketing copy.
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Huh? Nothing has changed with respect to control of Vortech pumps. If you're controlling them now you must have the WXM module. You just move that module over from your current classic to the new EL. You would have to do the same thing with the "full" $800 model. Control of Vortech pumps is the same across all Apex models.
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Exactly. I see an advantage and a huge cost savings for new technology without need for full blown access.
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I actually picked one of the new EL's up yesterday since our newly upgraded tank was missing a controller (old AC3 died anyway). For us, the EL is PERFECT since I dont care about the ORP or Salinity probes at all ... and we use a ReefLink to setup our MP40s, Radions, and Vectra (which isnt Apex compatible anyway). I could still add the MP40s and the Radions to the EL for a minimal cost, but once we set them, I rarely go into ESL anyway since everything just plain "works". So the $300 I saved by going EL vs the full model can be put towards the DOS that I need anyway and will work as-is with the EL.
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Looks lik3 the Apex Jr and Classic may be going away. Sucks because the Classic is what aI would upgrade to if my RKL ever dies.
