New Take on Brown Jelly Disease

[Flippers4pups]

Nice. Were the ones you fragged out still in your tank or did you sell them ?

Sold to local hobbyists that I’m friends with. Some have fragged them since getting them years ago.

 

[Cabinetman]

I lost 2 pieces In my set up in that round. A wall hammer and a new torch as well. The tank is only a few months old and I hadn’t really been testing anything but when I brought my trident online I realized my alk was super low..6.4. My other euphillia colonies weren’t looking the best at the time either but I’ve always believed brown jelly was more like the natural decomposing of euphillia. Just like when a dear or anything dies the first thing that happens is it’s swarmed by flies then In a few days it’s crawling with maggots. Now even if that deer wasn’t dead but Badly injured , the flies still move In and start the process, the same holds true about euphillia and brown jelly. Yes there might be some living tissue but there’s enough dead tissue that the euphillia flies so to say move In. And it will spread to other dying euphillia. In my case the way to stop it was To simply raise my alk. I did and havnt seen another sign of it since I raised it. And the euphillia that’s left is as healthy and happy looking as ever. I can’t seem to hurt it now or do anything to cause them to jelly. Not that I’m trying just I’ve fragged some since and some have fell from there spot landing upside down banging there heads. I’ve moved some grabbing the heads with tongs because I couldn’t get hold of them and nothing. They might not expand quite as big for a day but that’s it. I’ve added a few more colonies as well and they all look happy and still No more sign of it. So my suggestion is if you got euphillia going to jelly you should probably get an icp test if there’s nothing standing right out because There’s probably something wrong with your water chemistry or some other environmental stress thats killing the euphillia. To me a euphillia going to snot like that is just like seeing a carcass covered in maggots lol.

 

[Angeleyes reefraf]

If someone has an intact dead Head with long stem. Drop some food color in the head.... then wait at the base.

what does this do?

 

[T-tank]

what does this do?

It would let you know that the entire skeleton is porous for POTENTIAL nutrient import or waste export route.

 

[Lovefish77]

Just went through this thread as i have just lost a torch to BJD. Just wanted to share a different approach that did not yield results just for the record. A guy in the LFS once told me that they treat LPS (wild collected and imported) having tissue recession by antibiotics (specifically amoxicillin). Just to be clear the antibiotic is administered outside of the tank in a separate container (with specific concentration). To be honest i have tried this technique on a bubble that has receded and showing skeleton a few months back and miraculously the bubble has almost 100% recovered now and fully extended. So i tried that same antibiotic trick on the torch with BJD to no avail, the coral is almost totally dead today. But to be honest i have been observing this torch and it has been slowly showing tissue recession (no signs of BJD though). But when I saw there was no pests on it, i left it alone. A few days later it was covered by BJD and gone. Just wanted to share this with everyone here.

 

[Shirak]

Just went through this thread as i have just lost a torch to BJD. Just wanted to share a different approach that did not yield results just for the record. A guy in the LFS once told me that they treat LPS (wild collected and imported) having tissue recession by antibiotics (specifically amoxicillin). Just to be clear the antibiotic is administered outside of the tank in a separate container (with specific concentration). To be honest i have tried this technique on a bubble that has receded and showing skeleton a few months back and miraculously the bubble has almost 100% recovered now and fully extended. So i tried that same antibiotic trick on the torch with BJD to no avail, the coral is almost totally dead today. But to be honest i have been observing this torch and it has been slowly showing tissue recession (no signs of BJD though). But when I saw there was no pests on it, i left it alone. A few days later it was covered by BJD and gone. Just wanted to share this with everyone here.

Thanks for posting! I think time frame would be necessary with regard to tissue recession from a possible pathogen vs water parameters, light, and nutrients. Slow recession to me says that it's not a pathogen and antibiotics are probably not going to do anything. I have lost a number of Euphyllia and LPS to BJD in the past and it can hit perfectly healthy looking corals in a matter of days. It will also finish off any that are struggling and have been declining for a long period of time ie weeks/months. Just as a precaution now any new Euphyllia I acquire, get soaked in Cipro. I also put them in a frag tank so I can watch them closely. First sign of trouble such as any tissue recession or just not opening up well, they go back in the antibiotics a few days in a row.

 

[Lovefish77]

Thanks for posting! I think time frame would be necessary with regard to tissue recession from a possible pathogen vs water parameters, light, and nutrients. Slow recession to me says that it's not a pathogen and antibiotics are probably not going to do anything. I have lost a number of Euphyllia and LPS to BJD in the past and it can hit perfectly healthy looking corals in a matter of days. It will also finish off any that are struggling and have been declining for a long period of time ie weeks/months. Just as a precaution now any new Euphyllia I acquire, get soaked in Cipro. I also put them in a frag tank so I can watch them closely. First sign of trouble such as any tissue recession or just not opening up well, they go back in the antibiotics a few days in a row.

Interesting, Cipro before quarantine? Are you using similar antibiotic regiment like I use?

 

[Shirak]

Interesting, Cipro before quarantine? Are you using similar antibiotic regiment like I use?

New additions get a dip in Bayer and then in coral RX. Rinse after the coral RX. Some LPS particularly Euphyllia and Goni's and sometimes Lobo, Trachy, Blastos will go into a 15min cipro soak. Then they go into my frag tank for observation. I just kind of wing it on dosage.. Couple cups of water and I scrape some of the tablet off until I see a little cloud in the water lol

The Amoxicillin should be pretty effective as it is a broad spectrum antibiotic too. I still find you need to keep after a coral that looks like it has BJD and catch it early too. If I do see something suspicious I dose the tank for a couple days also.

 

[Superlightman]

for the people who had brown jelly, maybe there is a trigger in what make it appears, we should write the change we did prior the start. For me all the euphy were well until one week , all started with a sudden death in a beautiful trachy, in one night he died, then two day later brown jelly on a rare pancora than 2 days later on a golden torch, it killed my 3 most rare corals : -(
The change id did, as my phosphate 0,18 went high a few weeks before I added zeolite, then a few days before biopellets and rowa phos and fauna marin bacteria for bringing the phosphate down (but actually it is still the same), what change also was the KH going from 8,7 to 9,4 and I made the light 5% stronger.
My ICP showed nothing unusual just a lack of vanadium, chrom, cobalt but it is habitual .
I 'm thinking if the light has nothing to do with it has last time it happened to me two years ago I also increased it?