No Results Red Sea No Pox

[sdavi66572]

Been using red seas no pox for about 3 three weeks with no results. I have a 240 gallon DT with a 40 gallon sump. I have been dosing 30 ml a day for 3 weeks in my sump. My DT glass seems to be staying cleaner longer. My nitrates are above 10 and my phosphates are about 6. Not sure if I am doing something wrong or do I need to be more patience.

 

[Js.Aqua.Project]

From my experience with NO3PO-X in my 125 there is a certain amount of patience involved. It took me about 3 weeks before I saw the first signs of decline. I would also double check the math on your dosage as Red Sea says to use volume minus rock and sand.

Also, from my understanding Nitrates and Phosphates will bleed out of your rocks for a while as well.

 

[morpheas]

It is a little early. You're about to start seeing results. Give it another couple weeks.

 

[sdavi66572]

It is a little early. You're about to start seeing results. Give it another couple weeks.

Should I be testing every few days or is once a week ok?

 

[Kungpaoshizi]

With those numbers, once a week. And yes, you'll see nitrates plunge, then the phosphate leaching out of the rock. How much time does it take? I'm sure someone could be able to make an algorithm to guess based on poundage, but it's somewhat of a guessing game depending on how much was in the rock to begin with.
Get some lanthanum chloride or some calcium nitrate to make it easier. Once you get phosphates down, then you'll need to pay attention to the foods you feed and the nitrate vs phosphate amounts. As you progress you'll get the hang of it. Just be sure to ease off the dosage when nitrates go down. If you test and have zero nitrates, reduce dosage by half, then test no3/po4 every other day. It'll make more sense once you get there.

 

[morpheas]

As @Kungpaoshizi mentioned you're gonna have to be mindful of your dosage once you reach your goal. You need to make sure you don't bring your system to absolute zero plus overdosing can potentially cause bacterial blooms. So at this stage you don't need to test daily, weekly would do. I personally though test 2-3 times per week to get a better feel of my system. I test Saturday right before the weekly water change, and then either Wednesday or Tuesday/Thursday depending on how I feel haha. Not necessary but in my head it makes sense...

 

[1stNoel]

I've been on NoPox for about 2 weeks. I also agree that I've seen minimal changes to my Nitrates, and my green hair algae issue is still present.

However, the amount of skim being produced has significantly increased. I used to go about 3 days without having to clean the cup; now I have to do it daily.

Hopefully I'll start to see that green hair algae die off soon.

 

[Bpc9876]

As the others have said give it more time. NoPox isn't an instant fix for water quality issues and we all wish there were such things lol but let that bacteria do what it is designed to....work!
Best of luck!

 

[Breakthecycle2]

30 mls? I have a 250 and my max dose was 18 mls.

 

[Js.Aqua.Project]

Well Red Sea suggests based on a NO3 level higher than 10ppm to dose 3ml/25gal so 30ml would be the max dose assuming he has deducted for the volume taken up by sand and rock then adding any volume contributed by the sump. So it changes dose based on rock volume and nitrate levels.

 

[jerseypete]

It works. Give it time. I use a doser to dose. I got it dialed it to keep nitrate at 2.5 I feed the same everyday. Works great.

 

[sdavi66572]

I have been using No Pox 4 weeks know. Just check my nitrates and phosphates. Nitrates are less than 5 and phosphates are at .05. Big improvement over a couple weeks. Been dosing 30ml a day. I am going to cut back to 15ml a day and watch.
Or should I cut back more??

 

[lion king]

I think you are on track, but your phosphates are very high. You could use lantheum chloride to bring it down, like Kung suggessed. In my 210 that's what I did and I also continue to run gfo while dosing, that's what keeps my phosphates in check. Without the gfo my phosphates continued to rise, I feed alot of frozen food.

 

[jerseypete]

I have been using No Pox 4 weeks know. Just check my nitrates and phosphates. Nitrates are less than 5 and phosphates are at .05. Big improvement over a couple weeks. Been dosing 30ml a day. I am going to cut back to 15ml a day and watch.
Or should I cut back more??

I run gfo while dosing also. I dosed till I got to just less than 5. And cut back. So now I dose 10ml a day and it maintains at 2.5 - 5.0 . But you'll probably need to use something else to get phosphates down some. Preferably to .03 or lower. But it's good to have some.

 

[1stNoel]

I've been on NoPox for about 2 weeks. I also agree that I've seen minimal changes to my Nitrates, and my green hair algae issue is still present.

However, the amount of skim being produced has significantly increased. I used to go about 3 days without having to clean the cup; now I have to do it daily.

Hopefully I'll start to see that green hair algae die off soon.

2 weeks later and my nitrates are almost down to 1 ppm. Skimmate is still cleaned out on a daily basis, but more because it produces very dark and smelly skim. Algae has been dying off, and I've been on top of sucking out the detritus from the dying algae.

I have tried other products & methods (biopellets), but NoPox by far has been the most simple and effective solution. I've combined it with GFO and my tank is looking great.

Can I get a "Heck Yeah!"

 

[Kungpaoshizi]

Heck ya! lol

The first time I used it I was pretty shocked. Only reason I never tried it was because of the mass mentality on 'it's only a corporation that wants to take your moneh!'
Glad I finally said enough, and stopped listening to people talking down about red sea. I've had amazing results with it, though I hate the reality that dosers make it easier.

 

[sdavi66572]

I think you are on track, but your phosphates are very high. You could use lantheum chloride to bring it down, like Kung suggessed. In my 210 that's what I did and I also continue to run gfo while dosing, that's what keeps my phosphates in check. Without the gfo my phosphates continued to rise, I feed alot of frozen food.

I have been using No Pox8 weeks know. Just check my nitrates and phosphates. Nitrates are less than 2.5 (Red sea pro) and phosphates are at 0 with a( hanna). I think I went a little to far. Been dosing 5ml a day.
Should I stop No Pox or just dose 5ml every other day??
My DT is 240 with a 50 gallon sump and refugium.

 

[Js.Aqua.Project]

I have been using No Pox8 weeks know. Just check my nitrates and phosphates. Nitrates are less than 2.5 (Red sea pro) and phosphates are at 0 with a( hanna). I think I went a little to far. Been dosing 5ml a day.
Should I stop No Pox or just dose 5ml every other day??
My DT is 240 with a 50 gallon sump and refugium.

It was recommended to me to dose every day, it is more important that there be a consistent level of the bacteria in your tank. So if you are considering every other day it would be more helpful to do a half dose daily IMO.

 

[1stNoel]

Nitrates in my tank went from 2 to undetectable in days (I was initially at 16 when I started NoPox).

I'm currently dosing 5 mL per day on a 300 gallon tank. And I feed a bit heavier with the Reef Chili & Reef Roids. Nitrates are currently holding at 0.25 (I check every 4 days).

In summary, if you think you went overboard:

• reduce the daily dosage in accordance with Red Sea's instructions
• feed heavier, to make sure there is enough nutrition in the tank
• check NO3 every 3 to 4 days and adjust accordingly.

On a related but separate topic, anyone using the Red Sea Reef Energy products? How do you like them? I bought some, but I'm waiting until I've exhausted my other coral food before I switch over.

 

[Js.Aqua.Project]

Nitrates in my tank went from 2 to undetectable in days (I was initially at 16 when I started NoPox).

I'm currently dosing 5 mL per day on a 300 gallon tank. And I feed a bit heavier with the Reef Chili & Reef Roids. Nitrates are currently holding at 0.25 (I check every 4 days).

In summary, if you think you went overboard:

• reduce the daily dosage in accordance with Red Sea's instructions
• feed heavier, to make sure there is enough nutrition in the tank
• check NO3 every 3 to 4 days and adjust accordingly.

On a related but separate topic, anyone using the Red Sea Reef Energy products? How do you like them? I bought some, but I'm waiting until I've exhausted my other coral food before I switch over.

I use Reef Energy in my 125, it doesn't seem to work as an exclusive food for the corals but it seemed to make my corals more eager to eat. I saw more polyp extension from them in the time after Reef Energy was added to the water.

I would turn of my returns and leave only my power heads on for he first ten minutes Reef Energy was in the tank then add my food (a home made frozen food).

I noticed all of the corals colors seem to get more bold, and even my rock anemones color changed a little.