No tests... ever.

[MoreReef]

Ya honestly, what is the point. Throw it all in the trash.

Maybe go solve Rubik's cubes

To be fair... nano's are the easiest to keep imo... people always say they are hard but... because you can do larger % water changes... they are the easiest. That whole... more water is better seems like total crap to me. People grow corals in a 2g cookie jar with water changes which is not a difficult concept. Change. The. Water.

Just my opinion ofc.

I like you,

Ya honestly, what is the point. Throw it all in the trash.

Maybe go solve Rubik's cubes

To be fair... nano's are the easiest to keep imo... people always say they are hard but... because you can do larger % water changes... they are the easiest. That whole... more water is better seems like total crap to me. People grow corals in a 2g cookie jar with water changes which is not a difficult concept. Change. The. Water.

Just my opinion ofc.

Yes. 2 reefers with opposing points finding middle ground without offending each other...

 

[MoreReef]

I have a lighting question can you share a picture in white light? In that extremely blue picture it doesn't look like any of your acros have any p.e I can tell the digi's do but hard to see anything in blue light..

A few do... the clown goby seems to be the culprit. Lol the smaller branch less frags have good pe. The smaller colonies have practically 0 since he likes to hang out on those lol. It's too late to extract him too...

 

[thatmanMIKEson]

A few do... the clown goby seems to be the culprit. Lol the smaller branch less frags have good pe. The smaller colonies have practically 0 since he likes to hang out on those lol. It's too late to extract him too...

Right...

 

[fish farmer]

How big is this tank?

 

[MoreReef]

Right...

Lol... that and a few loose Polyp extension while they encrust or grow... but you already know that... you're certified reefer.

 

[MoreReef]

How big is this tank?

8 with displacement... id say about 6 6.5...

 

[DJF]

Lol... dude. There isn't much science behind keeping a reef tank. I could easily throw on a lab coat bust out the kits and bill nye away... get outta here...

I guess if you don’t care about the “why” or “how”then nothing is science. I know some microbiologists that would disagree that there isn’t much science behind reefing, @bill-nye any thoughts?

 

[MoreReef]

I guess if you don’t care about the “why” or “how”then nothing is science. I know some microbiologists that would disagree that there isn’t much science behind reefing, @bill-nye any thoughts?

What're are the "whys" or "hows" though... I'm sure whatever issue arises in a reef tank could be solved without consulting a microbiologist... I'm unclear on what you're curious about. If you're referring to the actual biological makeup of a coral... then you got me there.

 

[fish farmer]

8 with displacement... id say about 6 6.5...

So four fish in tank smaller than ten gallons, two of those fish will outgrow it and are better suited for 20 to 30 gallon tanks. Good luck with this.

 

[MoreReef]

I guess if you don’t care about the “why” or “how”then nothing is science. I know some microbiologists that would disagree that there isn’t much science behind reefing, @bill-nye any thoughts?

Sufficient lighting and flow.

So four fish in tank smaller than ten gallons, two of those fish will outgrow it and are better suited for 20 to 30 gallon tanks. Good luck with this.

Yeeeaaaaahhhh.... heard this PLENTY of times. Lol. Thanks man.

 

[MoreReef]

Sufficient lighting and flow.

Yeeeaaaaahhhh.... heard this PLENTY of times. Lol. Thanks man.

I'm big on try it yourself don't let others tell ya... it's worked so far. The tailspot royal and clown are all at full size I think... the only one I'm sketched out on is the yellow tail damsel since I've seen those things get huge and I've seen Itty bitty ones claiming to be adults... idk. We'll see.

 

[DJF]

What're are the "whys" or "hows" though... I'm sure whatever issue arises in a reef tank could be solved without consulting a microbiologist... I'm unclear on what you're curious about. If you're referring to the actual biological makeup of a coral... then you got me there.

If you’re asking why and how in earnest then I suggest approaching it with the scientific method. Like… “does testing need to happen on a reef tank to be successful?” Putting your hypothesis down which is obviously “no”, setting up control/variable groups to test. Then you come to a thread like this with some statistics and findings. The trick is removing subjectivity from the equation. Why do you think you’ve been successful without testing? (Careful when you answer… you may end up injecting some science) I agree you don’t need to be or consult a microbiologist to keep a successful reef but some of that is attributed to the science that happened before you had your tank. I can assure you there’s still science behind what is happening whether it is acknowledged or not.

 

[fish farmer]

I'm big on try it yourself don't let others tell ya... it's worked so far. The tailspot royal and clown are all at full size I think... the only one I'm sketched out on is the yellow tail damsel since I've seen those things get huge and I've seen Itty bitty ones claiming to be adults... idk. We'll see.

Royal grammas max out around three inches. It must hide pretty good in that tank.

 

[Max93]

There’s a difference between “set and forget” and “never testing.”
I’m sure you tested your specific gravity when you first started your tank, picked the salt mix with parameters you wanted, and along this do good husbandry (water changes?).

it’s misleading to newbies to throw this out there with no specifics of at least husbandry. I listened to someone that did this and I lost hundreds of dollars in acropora that were doing fine until I stopped testing, to catch a problem that I would have caught by testing (magnesium dipped hard, gotta roll your salt buckets…).

I’m glad it works for you and is great but for the sake of the hobby we aren’t trying to throw out anecdotal evidence out the window due to one person claiming they don’t ever test. You have to test - how do you know your salt is mixed right, your temperature? Failing heaters? I’m just talking bare bones here.

 

[sixty_reefer]

Don't suggest anyone take the same approach. But... it's working. Tank is 8 months. Any questions... ask away lol.

This tank was 7 months old in march, now 4 months later is 8 months old . Did you had to re start the tank?

New nano

Tank is about 7months old now, just recently started to fill the main rock with frags and I believe I'm out of space... Sps dominant aside from the blastos and zoas. 5 gal...

www.reef2reef.com

the sand bed seems full of diatoms is that because you didn’t test also?

 

[fish farmer]

This tank was 7 months old in march, now 4 months later is 8 months old . Did you had to re start the tank?

New nano

Tank is about 7months old now, just recently started to fill the main rock with frags and I believe I'm out of space... Sps dominant aside from the blastos and zoas. 5 gal...

www.reef2reef.com

the sand bed seems full of diatoms is that because you didn’t test also?

And it is only 5 gallons? Still can't see any fish...

 

[WVNed]

My fish is bigger than your tank

 

[sixty_reefer]

And it is only 5 gallons? Still can't see any fish...

Some folks must be thinking that we on R2R can’t see the truth past a picture and a statement.

 

[Hairyteeth]

I would agree that this nano hasn’t reached packed status with stony corals covering the rocks and sps frags turning into mini colony’s, so we haven’t reached a final destination with nutrient and chemical needs to declare water changes a full solution…I know they also worked for a time with my nano, until it didn’t

On maturity I guess who’s-to say, but I noticed stability around the two year mark in my nano, but I bet the new standard will be biome tests and comparisons?

at the end of this I don’t think this method will have long term success especially with z acros (referencing hitlers acros, hilarious YouTube video btw)
And it definitely feels like fishing or an angry internet troll throwing out decades of experience and success getting kicks on the weekend lol

 

[Forty-Two]

Just to point out… it’s not the testing of the tank that gets reefers in to trouble… it’s overreacting fast to the test results. Knowing where you are at is different than chasing parameters

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