One day to go on fallow period! Need HELP!!!

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

Ok guys its been 79 days!! tomorrow is the big day, i had been managing ich for the last 10 years and got fed up!!

i removed ALL my fish put them in a 200g treated them with paraguard for 2 weeks, then copper for 1 month. copper is still at .3

the problem is that i see 2 of my fish rub themselves on the pvc!!! no ich ,no nothing on there skin!!!

i do water changes every 2 weeks or so (50% or so) and re medicated! but its a lot of fish in a 200g system water quality does not look that good , no amonia but the water is not crystal clear.

sooooo!! what to do??? could the rubbing be from poor water quality???

HELP!!!!

joshkirkland83 · Dec 11, 2015

I would do a water change and run carbon. After all medication is removed from the water I would keep them under observation for two or three days. But, thats me. Others may suggest other methods.

melypr1985 · Dec 11, 2015

Think about it this way. When you get a shot or a cut or a burn for that matter. After meds are administered and your healing up.... do those parts of your body itch? It could just be the fish are healing and it's itchy

Mine were doing the same thing long after copper was done with and now they are doing it less and less.

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

jajajaj nice way to put it!![emoji106][emoji106] so ill be doing this tomorrow!! thank you so much!!

Breakthecycle2 · Dec 11, 2015

I left mine fallow for 82 days and a few fish still do it in the main tank. Not really sure if it's still ICH or something else.

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

but do they show white spots??

Breakthecycle2 · Dec 11, 2015

ruidos99 said:
but do they show white spots??

Not that I can see, no.

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

well it must be just an ich! jajaja

Breakthecycle2 · Dec 11, 2015

ruidos99 said:
well it must be just an ich! jajaja

Its been 5 weeks, no signs "yet".

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

jajajajaj crossings fingers!!!

Humblefish · Dec 11, 2015

ruidos99 said:
i removed ALL my fish put them in a 200g treated them with paraguard for 2 weeks, then copper for 1 month. copper is still at .3

What brand of copper did you use? And during the 1 month of copper treatment, what level were the fish treated at? .3 or something higher?

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

i used cupramine at .5 for a month. did water change and was left at .3

Humblefish · Dec 11, 2015

ruidos99 said:
i used cupramine at .5 for a month. did water change and was left at .3

You should be good to go then for ich/velvet. Are the fish targeting their gills when they rub? Just wondering if gill flukes could also be in play here, as those require a different treatment - Prazipro.

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

i did use paraguard for flukes, y just did a 40% water change with water from the display, lets see what happends!

Humblefish · Dec 11, 2015

ruidos99 said:
i did use paraguard for flukes, y just did a 40% water change with water from the display, lets see what happends!

I'm not sure if Paraguard does anything useful. Seachem won't even tell me what's in it.

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

hummm , i did do 1 week with fomalin...., i did all but prazipro

Brian Kim · Dec 11, 2015

I would suggest treating them for the last time with cupramine and prazipro....I mean, you waited that long, why take chances. Paraguard has not been proven to cure ich or marine velvet.

I would normally use Paraguard during the first week of QT while I am observing newly acquired fish but immediately follow up with cupramine and prazipro for week 2 to 4

ruidos99 · Dec 11, 2015

Hi Brian, well i did paraguard at the beginning, then copper4 weeks, then formalin the. copper again... i did a large watter change today with water from the display and as of now they stopped rubbin all together.... i think its water quality.. also the fight alot its like 10 tangs in there, plus 20 more fish my ell!!! angels triggers ...

Brian Kim · Dec 11, 2015

ruidos99 said:
Hi Brian, well i did paraguard at the beginning, then copper4 weeks, then formalin the. copper again... i did a large watter change today with water from the display and as of now they stopped rubbin all together.... i think its water quality.. also the fight alot its like 10 tangs in there, plus 20 more fish my ell!!! angels triggers ...

Oh great, best of luck....