Overflow help (Eclipse S)

[piranhaman00]

Hi all,

I am trying to figure out this drilling guide for the Eshopps eclipse S. From the images, where will the water level be? At the highest setting the grates on the overflow are below the trim, will the water level be that low then? How high up on the grates will the water level be? What is the 1” and 1.5” measurement on the guide for?

The directions are useless and it was missing a gasket, good start!

Any help appreciated!

 

[AdamNC]

I have one on my rimmed 40br and went to the top with the template, needless to say I had to trim the rim. If I were to do it again, which in time I will, I’d come down about 1/8”-1/4”. It's under a screen top so it’s not noticeable until you take the top off. This was done about 2 years ago.

 

[Zohar78]

i have a 40 breeder with elipse-m, and the fish company placed it as close to the trim as possible and it still leaves the water line below the trim.. its like the kit/weir is designed for rimless tank where it can be put higher up. one of the tricks i heard to fix it, was to get some tank safe clear plastic and either glue it or zip tie it to block like the lower portion of the weir, which would raise the water up.

 

[Naboria79]

i have a 40 breeder with elipse-m, and the fish company placed it as close to the trim as possible and it still leaves the water line below the trim.. its like the kit/weir is designed for rimless tank where it can be put higher up. one of the tricks i heard to fix it, was to get some tank safe clear plastic and either glue it or zip tie it to block like the lower portion of the weir, which would raise the water up.

I had the s and glued a piece of plastic to the bottom of the weir and made it so noisy. I wouldn't recommend doing it.

 

[piranhaman00]

I have one on my rimmed 40br and went to the top with the template, needless to say I had to trim the rim. If I were to do it again, which in time I will, I’d come down about 1/8”-1/4”. It's under a screen top so it’s not noticeable until you take the top off. This was done about 2 years ago.

Coming down 1/4” would be below the trim then though wouldn’t it? If I put it right to the top would like bring the water line above trim?

 

[AdamNC]

Coming down 1/4” would be below the trim then though wouldn’t it? If I put it right to the top would like bring the water line above trim?

yea if you butt the template to the trim you will have to trim it. But the water line is above the trim. Up to you if you want to chance it.

 

[Ruben's Reef]

I have two of those on my tanks. A S on the 40g and a M on the 75g. Simple, put the template inside and drill from inside out. Believe me, works perfect.

 

[piranhaman00]

I have two of those on my tanks. A S on the 40g and a M on the 75g. Simple, put the template inside and drill from inside out. Believe me, works perfect.

Yes this is the plan, but is your water line below the trim still?

yea if you butt the template to the trim you will have to trim it. But the water line is above the trim. Up to you if you want to chance it.

If the template is against the trim then shouldnt the box be righ there as well? Id rather not cut the trim but I would really like there to be no water line.

 

[slojim]

How high up on the grates will the water level be?

This is entirely based on your circulation flow. The flow your pump is putting into the tank has to get back into the overflow, so higher flow moves it up the grates. It isn't linear, since both the area and the pressure are changing with level. More complicated weirs that try to make that linear, or that try to minimize height changes, use shaped grates, but that isn't practical for this use. If you are unhappy with the result, you can always block some portion of the grates to raise the level, or drill a hole at the bottom of some weirs a little larger than the width to lower the level. At least that's what I told myself, but I butted it up to the trim and I didn't think any adjustment was necessary. The manufacturers have enough experience that they size them pretty well for the typical installation.

 

[Ruben's Reef]

Yes this is the plan, but is your water line below the trim still?




If the template is against the trim then shouldnt the box be righ there as well? Id rather not cut the trim but I would really like there to be no water line.

Once you drill the tank with the template inside the water line will be just right by the rim.

 

[Pntbll687]

The template should be used on the back of the tank, and slide it up under the trim. This should give you a water line just above the trim level.

 

[Ruben's Reef]

This video was recently when I drill my 75g using the M model.

 

[piranhaman00]

This video was recently when I drill my 75g using the M model.

The template should be used on the back of the tank, and slide it up under the trim. This should give you a water line just above the trim level.

Ok thanks, I will put it up to the trim and hope the waterline is good! Thanks

 

[piranhaman00]

Another question I forgot to address!

My set up only came with one 1.5" bulkhead gasket! BRS thinks its proprietary, anyone know? Can I use any 1.5" bulkhead gasket?

 

[Ruben's Reef]

Did you got it new? If is new you have two gaskets. You just need to separate, looks like one but are two. That happens to me when I got the M.

 

[piranhaman00]

Did you got it new? If is new you have two gaskets. You just need to separate, looks like one but are two. That happens to me when I got the M.

Yes brand new, I only can find one gasket that is loose. There is one that is on the inside of the internal box but that cannot be removed. I have been in contact with BRS and Eshopps. Im very eager to get home and see if its two stuck together. I was messing with it for a while though I feel like I would have noticed.

 

[Ruben's Reef]

Yes brand new, I only can find one gasket that is loose. There is one that is on the inside of the internal box but that cannot be removed. I have been in contact with BRS and Eshopps. Im very eager to get home and see if its two stuck together. I was messing with it for a while though I feel like I would have noticed.

I open the Eshopps box, look to make sure everything was there and then when I drilled the tank and when I went to install the Eshopps I can’t find the gaskets so I look all around the house and ask to my kids and nobody seen that so I called Eshopps customer service and explain what happens and the sent me the gaskets without cost at all. Then next day my wife found it on top is the fridge so I said I only have one but I look and said can’t be too thick so I separate cuz it was tight.

 

[piranhaman00]

I open the Eshopps box, look to make sure everything was there and then when I drilled the tank and when I went to install the Eshopps I can’t find the gaskets so I look all around the house and ask to my kids and nobody seen that so I called Eshopps customer service and explain what happens and the sent me the gaskets without cost at all. Then next day my wife found it on top is the fridge so I said I only have one but I look and said can’t be too thick so I separate cuz it was tight.

lol! I have looked everywhere around my apartment, figured the cats must have grabbed it.

Yes Eshopps or BRS is gonna send an extra out next week. If there are two stuck together I will be surprised! Like I said, I was messing around with the gasket for a while.

 

[joec]

Trust me, put the template on the INSIDE of the tank and all the way up as high as possible, and then drill

Also, put one gasket on each side of the glass, not per the instructions of Eshopps or you will likely have a leak

Also, to keep it as quiet as possible, raise the red tube as high as possible in the slot, dont push it all the way down or it will be much noisier

 

[Ruben's Reef]

Trust me, put the template on the INSIDE of the tank and all the way up as high as possible, and then drill

Also, put one gasket on each side of the glass, not per the instructions of Eshopps or you will likely have a leak

Also, to keep it as quiet as possible, raise the red tube as high as possible in the slot, dont push it all the way down or it will be much noisier

Ok when you put the template inside just put gently on the bottom the trim , do not push the template to go all the way to the top between the trim and glass. Also, about the gasket one goes on the glass out side, the overflow outer box and then the other one goes inside the overflow box and then the big nut. If you want you can call me at 813-506-9623 Ruben