Palytoxin Poison concern, opinion please!

[Camellia]

Update
Slept day away, feel horrible total body hurts. Finger is about the same.
Got a BIG butt shot and this??

Dr was actually familiar with Palytoxin, lived and worked on the West Coast for years. How lucky was that!
What is really strange to me is this horrible neck pain that came from nowhere?
Fed the fish, dog and ate a half gallon of ice cream a friend brought over to me,
Thanks a bunch y'all.
Good night, back to bed for me.

 

[zoomonster]

Update
Slept day away, feel horrible total body hurts. Finger is about the same.
Got a BIG butt shot and this??

Dr was actually familiar with Palytoxin, lived and worked on the West Coast for years. How lucky was that!
What is really strange to me is this horrible neck pain that came from nowhere?
Fed the fish, dog and ate a half gallon of ice cream a friend brought over to me,
Thanks a bunch y'all.
Good night, back to bed for me.

Feel better... that's generic for Levaquin a pretty decent antibiotic in the same family as Cipro. You probably got a mild dose of paly toxin and an infection from the cut.

 

[Fourstars]

If it gets worse, more swollen, go to the ER. The picture in the link are the ones that made me sick.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6431a4.htm?s_cid=mm6431a4_e

 

[Mrwilcox281]

Hope you are feeling better. You did the right thing by going in, better to catch the infection early then let it fester.

 

[Germ42]

Just found out I have some of these hahaha I've handled them many times and didn't even realize what could've happened! No one told me this when I bought them 6-8 months ago when first starting the hobby lol! The guy said he didn't know what they were called but I thought they were cool looking so I got them!

 

[Fourstars]

I was cleaning my frag racks with vinegar to remove calcium deposits and did not notice I had a few that grew on the rack. If They are ruptured they give off an aerosol. I felt light headed and almost fainted, and was sick for a good twenty four hours. Felt like having the flu with lots of hacking and a sore throat. As long as you are careful when handling your Zoas you should be fine. With the case in Alaska a pragnemt lady was in the same room, not even handling the live rock, and it caused her to go into labor. BIO HAZARD!

 

[SandJ]

Camellia, hope you are feeling better.

I think the tricky part is all palythoas have different levels of toxins and each person reacts differently.

Julia Sprung has an excellent talk on Palytoxin.

 

[LoCoFish]

Be sure and watch it! I got poisoned from a coral in my system when I fragged a bunch of different things and ended up in the hospital for 4 days on iv antibiotics and they had to eventually cut the infection out. Just be sure and watch it, the whiteness around the hole is exactly how mine started and I was prescribed an oral antibiotic but it only got worse...

 

[LoCoFish]

Started smaller than a needle point

 

[LoCoFish]

First picture was the second day, I went to the er as soon as it got red on day 1, they sent me home and it got worse when I started antibiotics

 

[drewstaxplaya]

are these palys? sorry, not trying to hijack just concerned on what could be or if i could end up with palytoxin if not careful

 

[Tahoe61]

^yes those appear to be palys.

Keep in mind this thread has veered into bacterial infection now. Palytoxin is not threated via antibiotic therapy.

The original poster most likely had an open wound, even a tiny sized wound and a bacterial pathogen was able to gain entry secondary to compromised skin integrity. Every hobbyist that I have known including myself had a cut or injury either from working in the tank or prior injury.

 

[Fourstars]

^yes those appear to be palys.

Keep in mind this thread has veered into bacterial infection now. Palytoxin is not threated via antibiotic therapy.

The original poster most likely had an open wound, even a tiny sized wound and a bacterial pathogen was able to gain entry secondary to compromised skin integrity. Every hobbyist that I have known including myself had a cut or injury either from working in the tank or prior injury.

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I agree. Don't put open wounds in your tank, and wear protective gear if your handling palys. Also don't soak them in vinegar, they don't like that

 

[drewstaxplaya]

i kind of just want to get rid of them now i dont want something that can kill me in my tank unless its a blue ring lol

 

[BoneXriffic]

We are going to beed another update to assure youre breathing still!

I agree with the bacterial infection vs paly toxin, based on all these articles.

However for thosnquestioning if they have palys, is it not true zoas also produce this? That being said...caution and research!

 

[Eckolancer]

Scariest part of these tanks

 

[Live Water]

Any updates, is he still alive? My God I just bleached an entire tank full of these 370 gallons worth, I hate them, I knew there were toxic but I didn't realize that just a nick on your finger could cause this much of a problem

 

[TherealplexiG]

While doing maintenance i accidentally got sprinkled with saltwater from the tank in my right eye, tiny winy bit. Next thing i knew my eye got swollen and became red like a cherry. Ah! that discomfort and irritation i can't ever forget. It took around a month to cure, i was on medication though! Them certain stuffs are nasties, you always need to have the protection gear bucked up your ally.

It would be better to discard the entire rock rather than scraping it off!

 

[TherealplexiG]

Started smaller than a needle point

Scares the hell out of me!
Dang i got goosebumps...

 

[reptileguy112]

Started smaller than a needle point

OMG the same exact thing happened to me! The doctor gave me pill antibiotics that didn't do anything then red lines started going up my arm and my finger got huge and they had me on IV for like 5 days with a super strong broad spectrum antibiotic that made me want to puke. I still have a dent in my finger where it started, it melted a hole right in my middle finger. I'll try to find pics from when it happened