Phosphate direction

[Fishingandreefing]

For those of you that had used Phosphate RX, please check this out.

I am trying to lower my phosphate, it’s currently sitting at around .50.

My intention is to start off low, 50% or less due to the warnings I read.

Instructions on the box “Six drops of phosphate RX will lower your phosphate .50ppm for every 10 gallon of water.”

so for my 120g, if my goal is to drop to .25. I have to put 18 drops?

so I plan on do a water change after, but how long after treating the tank before water change?

 

[Bfragale]

Hello there.
If I get you correctly: 6 drops per 10 gal lowers .5.

you want to lower .25. So divide dose in half: 3 drops per 10 gal for .25.

120 gal divided by 10 gal is 12.

12x3 drops equals 36 drops to drop 120 gal by .25.

this is how I would interpret it. Hope I’m right and hope this helps. Take care

 

[Fishingandreefing]

This is how I understand it, six drops per 10g, and I got 120, so 12x6=72 drops. 1/2 strength is 36 drops, but then I want to dose only Half strength of what other had used it before due to those side effects. So, it’s 18 to me.

hope this is right lol

 

[Fishingandreefing]

I will use a 10 micron filter socks on the return while drop it slowly.

 

[Bfragale]

This is how I understand it, six drops per 10g, and I got 120, so 12x6=72 drops. 1/2 strength is 36 drops, but then I want to dose only Half strength of what other had used it before due to those side effects. So, it’s 18 to me.

hope this is right lol

Yes, sorry I didn’t realize you wanted half of the half lol. In that case 18 sounds right to me.

 

[Fishingandreefing]

Yes, sorry I didn’t realize you wanted half of the half lol. In that case 18 sounds right to me.

No worries, I was try to make sure I was right lol.

 

[Fishingandreefing]

bump

 

[Shirak]

I’m confused. You want to take your tank from .5 to.25? Which is a .25ppm reduction. If 6 drops/10gal = .5ppm reduction then 3drops/10 gal = .25ppm reduction. So you need 3 drops/10 gal. 120 gal/10 =12 x3 =36 drops. You could use 18 but would need to do it twice to reach your goal

 

[Fishingandreefing]

I have seen people use an IV drip,

I’m confused. You want to take your tank from .5 to.25? Which is a .25ppm reduction. If 6 drops/10gal = .5ppm reduction then 3drops/10 gal = .25ppm reduction. So you need 3 drops/10 gal. 120 gal/10 =12 x3 =36 drops. You could use 18 but would need to do it twice to reach your goal

my main concern is to use 25% strength of the LC.

 

[Shirak]

Then use 25% strength.. but if all the information is correct you should see a drop from .5ppm to .375ppm

 

[Fishingandreefing]

So, I used about 25% dose, and it was 18 drops. I mixed it with about a 15oz of rodi water. Then I used a IV line and drip it slowly into the 10 micron filter sock.

about 30 mins in, my candy cane was melting and the bubble corals was ticked with string coming out.

it took about 1.5 hour. The filter was clogged up really bad toward the end. I had to wash it three times with rodi water in order to finish the process.

the water was clouded up for about an hour.

will post more updates.

 

[Fishingandreefing]

Then use 25% strength.. but if all the information is correct you should see a drop from .5ppm to .375ppm

Have you used it before? If so, wonder if I should consider dose another 25% two days later. I don’t want to wait to long and let the p04 creep up again.

 

[Fishingandreefing]

Plan on running half GFO half carbon when it drops down to like around .10.

I don’t want to run the high capacity gfo afraid might strip too much, I think this is the one everyone uses

BRS Bulk GFO Granular Ferric Oxide

Why does BRS recommend this? Phosphates are going to be one of the biggest battles we have with a reef aquarium. The BRS GFO works great in filter socks and reactors. For the price Standard Granular GFO is going to be one of the best values when it comes to GFO for phosphate removal...

www.bulkreefsupply.com

 

[Shirak]

Have not used it so I am only going by the info given. Sounds like it works very quickly though so you should be able to check your PO4 and see what impact the 18 drops had on the system. This would give you a good idea how future treatments would further affect your PO4

 

[TheKyle]

I would be very scared to drop phosphate that quickly. I have been using lanthanum chloride with good results the last 3 months but only aiming to drop phosphates maybe 0.03ppm per day. Giving coral time to react to changing parameters just seems safer to me. Just my opinion though so take it with a grain of salt. Btw I use very watered down phosban-L as my LaCl additive. Even going that slow my rainbow bubble anemone closed up for a week and a half when my phosphates got back down to normal low range. Now it’s fine again.

 

[TheKyle]

Here’s a thread I wrote describing my experience. I dose directly into the skimmer cup instead of using socks. It is less efficient than the sock method, meaning you get less drop of phosphate for the amount dosed but works for me.

Dosing lanthanum chloride into skimmer - tips

Hello, just wanted to share a helpful tip I learned about dosing lanthanum chloride into the skimmer cup. If you don’t care to read the rest of the post here is what I have learned: Do not dose/drip into the top of the cup. Installing extra tubing to dose further down in the skimmer body is...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Fishingandreefing]

Have not used it so I am only going by the info given. Sounds like it works very quickly though so you should be able to check your PO4 and see what impact the 18 drops had on the system. This would give you a good idea how future treatments would further affect your PO4

Yeah just worries about my livestock’s, already lost half of the candy colony. At least it’s not the expensive type

 

[Fishingandreefing]

I would be very scared to drop phosphate that quickly. I have been using lanthanum chloride with good results the last 3 months but only aiming to drop phosphates maybe 0.03ppm per day. Giving coral time to react to changing parameters just seems safer to me. Just my opinion though so take it with a grain of salt. Btw I use very watered down phosban-L as my LaCl additive. Even going that slow my rainbow bubble anemone closed up for a week and a half when my phosphates got back down to normal low range. Now it’s fine again.

So, my guess you would just use a couple of drops per day? I am already using only 25% strength

if you’re aiming to reduce .03 daily and you were running something else to maintain it? I am afraid by the time you attempt to lower it again the next day, it starts rises up again.

 

[Fishingandreefing]

Here’s a thread I wrote describing my experience. I dose directly into the skimmer cup instead of using socks. It is less efficient than the sock method, meaning you get less drop of phosphate for the amount dosed but works for me.

Dosing lanthanum chloride into skimmer - tips

Hello, just wanted to share a helpful tip I learned about dosing lanthanum chloride into the skimmer cup. If you don’t care to read the rest of the post here is what I have learned: Do not dose/drip into the top of the cup. Installing extra tubing to dose further down in the skimmer body is...

www.reef2reef.com

actually I did drip a small amount in the skimmer but seems wouldn’t be as effective myself too.

 

[TheKyle]

So, my guess you would just use a couple of drops per day? I am already using only 25% strength

if you’re aiming to reduce .03 daily and you were running something else to maintain it? I am afraid by the time you attempt to lower it again the next day, it starts rises up again.

Mines on a dosing pump. It’s since been scaled back and dialed in to maintain phosphate level around 0.03-0.04 in the tank.