Photoshopping is getting old

flricordia · Jan 16, 2009

Once again, I am not referring to cropping, sharpening, coloring to true colors, etc, I am I believe most that buy from sites other than here, are talking about saturating a zoanthid or coral with color to a point that it becomes a lie.

Fats71 · Jan 16, 2009

Here is where Photoshop is a bad thing. I am not great at knowing what exactly something is supposed to look like. I try and check several different pics of it and then make my decission.

I buy online mostly and when I buy something that is so vivid and it shows up at my house and looks like a terd I am usually pretty ticked and feel duped.

It just sucks to pay a bunch of money for something get it in the mail for it to be something completely different...

Flric has a great point and as a previous buyer from him and a future one I see what he is saying and it makes perfect sense to me.

I think his pics depict the exact colors played down a notch or two so when they arrive your on high with how they look.
If any of that made sense.

Saltysteele · Jan 17, 2009

flricordia said:
Once again, I am not referring to cropping, sharpening, coloring to true colors, etc, I am I believe most that buy from sites other than here, are talking about saturating a zoanthid or coral with color to a point that it becomes a lie.

we're on the same page, then

Azurel · Jan 17, 2009

There is a difference between Photo Editing which you guys agree is OK and then you have photo shopping which seems to me to be a term used for nefarious uses as you guys describe....I think from now on we use the two different terms, if someone has a nice pic and you see that it has been edited that is cool as long as it does not represent a false image. Photo shopping is the use of the program for or to represent something that is not of a true representation....Such as over saturation....How is that?

Paintguru · Jan 17, 2009

Azurel said:
There is a difference between Photo Editing which you guys agree is OK and then you have photo shopping which seems to me to be a term used for nefarious uses as you guys describe....I think from now on we use the two different terms, if someone has a nice pic and you see that it has been edited that is cool as long as it does not represent a false image. Photo shopping is the use of the program for or to represent something that is not of a true representation....Such as over saturation....How is that?

That is bad....it gives Photoshop a bad name, and you can easily do it in non-Photoshop programs. For one, I'm not sure why we need a specific term for it, but if we need one, call it oversaturation or color misrepresentation.

daaznmofo · Jan 17, 2009

thats a general term for that. been called that for a long time.

Azurel · Jan 17, 2009

daaznmofo said:
thats a general term for that. been called that for a long time.

Exactly my point.....It's not those that legitimately used the program, but those that have done nefarious things to pictures to trick people that has caused the term "photo shopped" to mean it is a false picture or tampered picture... It's not the makers of the programs fault either but, the fact that they created the program for the ability to do such things mean they knew people out there could and would use it for that purpose. Why do you think they have never come out and publicly said anything about society as a whole using it or tried to stop it from being coined that way. That is in fact one of the purposes of the program. News broad cast use the term when showing picture that have been tampered showing people in precarious positions with it etc....

returnofsid · Jan 17, 2009

I agree that "photoshopping" is a bad term to use. Adobe Photo Shop is an amazing program and great tool for photographers. To give the term "photoshopping" a negative connotation is probably a bad idea, and not the desired reason behind this thread...but could be seen that way.

flricordia · Jan 17, 2009

I second. Photoshopping should not be used any longer for color misrepresentation.
But we need a cool term. How about Zoantharia miscoloring? That will cover all the corals and sea anemones.
Open for something better.

JuniorMC8704 · Jan 17, 2009

lol, how about like you see in americas most wanted and shows like that where you see the video, and in the bottom, it says

DRAMATIZATION

flricordia · Jan 17, 2009

It's funny but I can't think of any thing else that gets sold by pics and is overly colored on the internet except corals. Fortunately there are not many that do over-color their pics.
How about ZOANTHAMATIZATION? To falsely over color pictures of zoantharia on the Internet in order to illicit sales.

Azurel · Jan 18, 2009

returnofsid said:
I agree that "photoshopping" is a bad term to use. Adobe Photo Shop is an amazing program and great tool for photographers. To give the term "photoshopping" a negative connotation is probably a bad idea, and not the desired reason behind this thread...but could be seen that way.

Any time you see the term "Photo shopped" it is used in a negative way.....Has nothing to with the tool or the program that it is used on. Even if it wasn't done on the Photo shop program it will still be coined that way.....Look at the title of the thread or any others where somebody has a question about the validity of the colors of a coral. What is the first thing they ask? Are these colors real or have they been photo shopped?...The cat is out of the bag and has been for a few years, I have no problem with it and have used photo shop many times to edit pictures and it don't change the quality of the program.....I doubt you will find a coined phrase that will work and cut to the chase as photo shopped. Since as soon as anyone within the hobby and outside the hobby as well know exactly what you mean when you say it....

I do agree though that it is not in anyone's best interest to pass a picture that has been altered as "the real deal" when selling corals as a business or hobbyist. All that does is lead to disappointment and hard feelings......

rdvab · Jan 18, 2009

:cry:For the folks selling corals.You ain't Ted Turner!!!If it's black and white,it is black and white .Don't colorize it and make it blue and pink!If you want to crop it or sharpen it(re-focus)ok,just dont change the color.
:horse:
Come on guys,if we did not have photo editing ,where would that put Playboy and Penthouse.....gross,real photos of women ,Really!!:hell_boy: