Poll: What do you use to make water less yellow?
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I have always ran Ozone, I run it at full speed, don't use a controller, don't need to test, never had any health problems (although my hair fell out)
Have no yellow water or any other problems, never had to do anything to the thing and forget it is there, don't have to quarantine (although I think that has nothing to do with Ozone) and my fish are all smiling
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This is what I use occasionally. Water becomes crystal clear in a few hours.
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It's all about natural filtration here, We use Sponges as "carbon" they do a better job at cleaning the water IMO.
I have always ran Ozone, I run it at full speed, don't use a controller, don't need to test, never had any health problems (although my hair fell out)
Have no yellow water or any other problems, never had to do anything to the thing and forget it is there, don't have to quarantine (although I think that has nothing to do with Ozone) and my fish are all smiling
Paul, I do know some people do have reactions to a very small amount of residue ozone in the air. Personally, I had no such problems.
The way we arrived at the correct safe level of ozone was to put your nose over where the ozone exited, turn the ozone up till you could smell it then back it off a little so you could no longer smell it. Like you say no controllers back in the day just a nose for the job ;Nurse
Use gac plus weekly water changes, gac amount is rated for below tank volume calculation, and changed each water change.
Havent seen any post on UV, but in systems i use uv i see no effect on yellow pigment. What size uv would you need to breakdown the organics in gelbstoff? I use uv on a planted blackwater aquarium and i still have tannins with uv.
My understanding of oxididators was they worked on the same principle as ozone just with a different oxidizer. O3 is a stronger oxidizer than O2 so the effect might be faster with O3 and may need less. I could be wrong ive never actually used either lol.
Havent seen any post on UV, but in systems i use uv i see no effect on yellow pigment. What size uv would you need to breakdown the organics in gelbstoff? I use uv on a planted blackwater aquarium and i still have tannins with uv.
My understanding of oxididators was they worked on the same principle as ozone just with a different oxidizer. O3 is a stronger oxidizer than O2 so the effect might be faster with O3 and may need less. I could be wrong ive never actually used either lol.
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My first Ozonizer. a Sander and not the most reliable I have to say, it did not like being in the damp air of the cabinet. I got this model about 30 ish years ago.
Ray from ghost busters “Well, we talk to it; we sing to it. Say kind, nuturing things to it.”
Maybe it does form O3 or perhaps the smaller bubbles or more abundant O2 increases oxidizing potential.
I wonder if simple micro bubble scrubbing has an effect on yellow water? Maybe ill test have a wooden airstone lying around.
No need, just ask those who struggle with microbubbles in their aquarium produced by some of their equipment lol. .
Yes, but resist the urge to put the hose up your nose.
What do you mean Paul, it's far better than sniffing glue
Clears the sinuses out as well ;Wacky
Kids, don't try that at home as it will do more harm that sniffing socks underpants and illegal substances.
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Thanks for that Lasse.
I just had to Google that lol.
Quote "A free radical is any species capable of independent existence containing one or more unpaired electrons [1]. The unpaired electron alters the chemical reactivity of the molecule/atom, making it more reactive than the corresponding non-radical form. The oxygen free radicals include superoxide anion radical (O2·–), singlet oxygen (1O2), hydroxyl radical (·OH) and perhydroxyl radical (HO2·) and are termed collectively the ‘reactive oxygen species’ (ROS). The usual route of O2 metabolism is through its complete reduction to H2O by accepting four electrons. However, with a single electron reduction several free radicals and hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) are formed. In vivo, ROS are generated by oxidant enzymes, phagocytic cells, ionizing radiation, etc. Superoxide anion is believed to be the first radical formed, mainly by the electron transport chain when O2 picks up a single electron. Radicals such as ·OH, HO2· and H2O2 are formed from O2·– [2,3]. O2·– undergoes a dismutation reaction catalysed by the enzyme superoxide dismutase (SOD) to form H2O2,"
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Nice. I think my first ozonizer must be in the very back bottom of my crowded storage unit.
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If you study the cross-sectional drawings of the Oxydator, it is clear that it is actually pushing the peroxide liquid into the water stream - not just oxygen. The catalyst just generates oxygen so as to displace the peroxide liquid from the container and force it out through the bottom outlet into the water stream. It is the peroxide that is oxidizing and breaking down the dissolved organic material. The risk would be if you somehow overturned or dumped the entire container of peroxide into the tank at one time.
