Popcorn ceiling killing my hard coral?

[GoVols]

Do you carbon dose?

Also, What test kits (Brands) do you use to check your phos and nitrates?

I think you said you moved. Could the DSB got disturbed or did you start over with fresh sand?

Have you sent a water sample to Triton Labs?

 

[Frop]

Trumpet and candy cane are slowly receding. It's so awful watchin my babies die! 2 of my six head frogspawn are dying. Right beside each other. My frag rack is the same. Top 2 are tucked and the rest are fine. Cup coral is in awful shape. Again had it since an inch. This big plate has been in my system since 2". Years

All I have to say is I have never seen so many people on one thread that isn't a raffle.

 

[Bruce Burnett]

my 2 cents, fish or pest, bacterial infection, starvation I don't mean low nutrient but not enough food particulates, alk swing, when I moved everything acted like it was a new tank. Had to re acclimate the corals to my lights never could go as bright or as long as before. I think it is because of room layout and the ceiling is closer to the tank and lights. PH was also lower in new house, co2 buildup. My hammer started losing a polyp reduced pump speeds and direct feeding seems to have helped even though I was feeding the tank a lot. Hope you figure it out

 

[Bruce Burnett]

one other thing unless you know you have a contamination I would not keep doing big water changes as this will keep stressing the corals that are already stressed. I am one though that has not done but one 10% w/c in 18 months.

 

[Fragzilla]

Your corals look like mine did after my wrasse disturbed my 2 inch sand bed. It happened over night and all sps stripped and went dark colours and died, LPS looked like they had been the victim of an acid attack. Chalices in particular were worst hit, then funghias, followed by acans. My tracky threw about 1000 misineral filaments out. Zoas were unaffected.

Everything else was mad as hell. I had to drain the tank, put everything in buckets and crates, take out all the sand and add new sand. It took a few months for stuff to start improving and now 9 months later it's all back to normal and thriving. I would check your Nitrate levels, at zero nitrate your much more likely to start producing sulphuric compounds in your sand bed. Iron sulphide (FES) is what I suspected as being the most likely compound produced but could be another sulphurous compound at play.

 

[Orcus Varuna]

Your corals look like mine did after my wrasse disturbed my 2 inch sand bed. It happened over night and all sps stripped and went dark colours and died, LPS looked like they had been the victim of an acid attack. Chalices in particular were worst hit, then funghias, followed by acans. My tracky threw about 1000 misineral filaments out. Zoas were unaffected.

Everything else was mad as hell. I had to drain the tank, put everything in buckets and crates, take out all the sand and add new sand. It took a few months for stuff to start improving and now 9 months later it's all back to normal and thriving. I would check your Nitrate levels, at zero nitrate your much more likely to start producing sulphuric compounds in your sand bed. Iron sulphide (FES) is what I suspected as being the most likely compound produced but could be another sulphurous compound at play.

Very well put, this was my thought as soon as I saw the pictures.

 

[pugcrush]

+1 on getting it triton tested. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall reading that there is a point in which a ATS can negatively impact stony corals. It strips out a certain trace element (strontium maybe?). Even though the fuge is thriving, there might be something missing in the water.

 

[DanConnor]

Since it has been mentioned a few times, just want to point out that asbestos is fairly inert, and not likely to affect water quality

 

[Jbryan243]

Trumpet and candy cane are slowly receding. It's so awful watchin my babies die! 2 of my six head frogspawn are dying. Right beside each other. My frag rack is the same. Top 2 are tucked and the rest are fine. Cup coral is in awful shape. Again had it since an inch. This big plate has been in my system since 2". Years

If you suspect any kind of contamination, Id suggest heavy amounts of carbon asap.

If he or anyone thinks that this maybe due to starvation I wouldn't use any carbon at this point, wouldn't want to remove much more nutrients. I have had plenty popcorn fall into my tank installing lights and what-not. Speaking of lighting? New LED's or anything like that?

 

[GoVols]

+1 on getting it triton tested. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall reading that there is a point in which a ATS can negatively impact stony corals. It strips out a certain trace element (strontium maybe?). Even though the fuge is thriving, there might be something missing in the water.

Must say again...

I'd do the Triton test.

Then your down to pest or lights.

But That's JMO

 

[JEREMY82]

My 2 cents. House is older, you say you notice the stomp from ceiling on edge of tank. Cover tank top. Who knows if when they did the ceiling what all was used. A lot of times when contractors work on ceilings they may use kills paint then use a white paint over it. I cannot remember what year houses but older homes have lead paints in em to. What if a piece of ceiling debris is down in tank sand bed or stuck in rock just slowly leaching undectable stuff into tank .also when u started notice things go south try to back track things you have done to tank.dosing removing reactors,changing media, running cheato.but since u said stuff from ceiling may be getting in tank that leads me to believe more towards ceiling contaminating your tank.Hope you get it figured out before anything else starts to take a turn.. Gl

 

[Wiz]

Did you change anything or get anything new in the month before you noticed the problem?, any new rock, salt, marine pure, sand anything different.

Only frozen food, t5, and a pump

 

[Wiz]

Dsb is in great condition. I have been using the same tests for a year or more. So I know they are not the issue. I did carbon dose but have not recently. And it's looking like Triton might be my only answer.

Do you carbon dose?

Also, What test kits (Brands) do you use to check your phos and nitrates?

I think you said you moved. Could the DSB got disturbed or did you start over with fresh sand?

Have you sent a water sample to Triton Labs?

 

[JEREMY82]

Check for stray voltage with multi meter

 

[Wiz]

Before I moved I had not done a water change in years. When I moved I added new water. But I did not get blooms everything seems fine.

one other thing unless you know you have a contamination I would not keep doing big water changes as this will keep stressing the corals that are already stressed. I am one though that has not done but one 10% w/c in 18 months.

 

[Wiz]

Check for stray voltage with multi meter

How? Lol I have one but would not know how to test

 

[JEREMY82]

I believe u need to set it on the lowest acv.stick ground plug in bottum slot and red line in one of the other 2 slots when u see you have a 120 Redington keep ground plug in that socket stick red in water.BE CAREFUL

 

[Wiz]

I'm thinking about the Triton test. stray voltage could also be an answer but I don't know how to test. I don't think it is a water pollution issue. The reason I say this is because a lot of the corals are just fine. These pictures were taken just now and as you can see four of the six heads of the same Coral are doing great and two of them are jelled out and dead. The top two frag on my rack our jelled and dead while the bottom four are all fine and dandy. A lot of my LPS are doing just fine. Some of my SPS are doing just fine. It seems that it is only certain corals or worse yet certain parts of certain corals.

 

[JEREMY82]

Have a reading of 120 volts*then you know your grounded good and place tip of red wire probe in water

 

[GoVols]

Dsb is in great condition. I have been using the same tests for a year or more. So I know they are not the issue. I did carbon dose but have not recently. And it's looking like Triton might be my only answer.

I have not done the Triton but if I were in your shoes I'd do that test ASAP.

I've seen others readings and that test covers a ton of parameters.

We "all" feel for you and just trying to help.

Regards, GoVols