^^This latest pic you posted is making me nervous, as this could be brook. Let's hope Paraguard is as good as adveritsed; otherwise you may need to dip him in formalin or acriflavine. Another option would be to add metronidazole or formalin to the QT to address the possibility of brook. Using one of those meds in conjunction with copper is how many wholesalers/public aquariums deal with the "Big 4" external parasites.
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^^This latest pic you posted is making me nervous, as this could be brook. Let's hope Paraguard is as good as adveritsed; otherwise you may need to dip him in formalin or acriflavine. Another option would be to add metronidazole or formalin to the QT to address the possibility of brook. Using one of those meds in conjunction with copper is how many wholesalers/public aquariums deal with the "Big 4" external parasites.
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Just gonna jump in here, are you feeding with Garlic? When I had a outbreak on my clowns, could not quite figure out what it was, I fed garlic, focus and Metrondonizole in my QT and they did great and 2 years later happy as can be
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The more I read on this thread, the more I'm so grateful I've never had an issue with any fish issues.... It also makes me want to never buy another so I don't end up with one... 
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The metroplex/focus/garlic just arrived yesterday. I will give them a try once the fish starts to eat. Right now they are a little finicky.
The black clownfish was fed with formula one and spectrum pellets soaked in garlic/vitamins/aminos before it came down with this disease. I guess because of that the clown fish is strong and trying hard to fight the disease.
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Good luck. I have had success with the focus/metroplex.
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The more I read on this thread, the more I'm so grateful I've never had an issue with any fish issues.... It also makes me want to never buy another so I don't end up with one...
I'm not giving up. I learned something new here first hand. This thing makes curing ick a walk in the park.
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I'll give it one day to rest up. If it's not better by tomorrow, I will try metroplex. As of this morning the anthias is hiding, clown fish is finicky and eating only a few fish roe. It was also scratching against the bottom of the tank which I never see it do before.
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@Humblefish do you think there is two type of disease here? Both brook and velvet?
Seeing the latest pic of the B&W clown has got me wondering. Copper will suppress brook, but not completely eradicate it. I would give your clownfish (is it just one?) a formalin or acriflavine bath just to be on the safe side. And then treat the QT with metro (combined with copper).
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I do not have formalin or acriflavine. I will check the LFS for this tomorrow. In the meantime I'll give the clown a FW dip. I'll add the metro in now.
The Anthias died today. Found him laying behind the pipe lifeless.
The Anthias died today. Found him laying behind the pipe lifeless.
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Someone here was able to treat with paraguard:
http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/52511-treating-brooklynella-with-seachem-paraguard-long/
I'll dip him in 3ml paraguard again as it showed no sign of stress when I did it yesterday. Clown fish still breathing fast and not eating.
http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/52511-treating-brooklynella-with-seachem-paraguard-long/
I'll dip him in 3ml paraguard again as it showed no sign of stress when I did it yesterday. Clown fish still breathing fast and not eating.
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Paraguard might work for brook, but I have zero experience using that stuff. I know formalin & acriflavine (ex. Ruby Reef Rally) works, as I've used both before.
Sorry about the anthias.
Velvet is a very tough disease to beat. And if brook is also in play now, that just compounds the problem.
Sorry about the anthias.
Velvet is a very tough disease to beat. And if brook is also in play now, that just compounds the problem.
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Clown fish is not looking good today. I will try to see if I can locate formalin or acriflavine today. Breathing is more rapid now.
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I did a one minute dip in FW at tank temp and some of the white spots is gone. Seems velvet has taken over. Did not want to do more as it may stress him. I added remaining dosage of copper today.
QT tank has copper and Metrondonizole
QT tank has copper and Metrondonizole
@kevindo123 After seeing these latest pics, I am quite confident he has brook. Get your hands on some formalin or acriflavine ASAP. Below are instructions and products I am aware of that contain each:
- Acriflavine (preferred) - Do the bath for 75-90 minutes, but remove the fish immediately at the first sign of distress. Aerate heavily both before & during the bath, and temperature control the water. The following products contain acriflavine: Acriflavine-MS and Ruby Reef Rally. DO NOT mix acriflavine with any other chemicals.
- Formalin - Do the bath for 30-60 minutes max, but remove the fish immediately at the first sign of distress. Aerate heavily both before & during the bath, and temperature control the water. The following products contain formalin: Formalin-MS, Quick Cure, Aquarium Solutions Ich-X, Kordon Rid-Ich Plus. Use protection (rubber gloves, face mask, eye protection, etc.) whenever handling formalin as it is a known carcinogen! However, you can add Methylene Blue to the formalin bath (1 capful per 2-3 gallons of bath water.)
Brooklynella:
Symptoms – This is most often seen in clownfish, but it can afflict any fish. The fish’s skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off, oftentimes causing excessive white mucous to form around the affected area(s).
Treatment options - Formalin bath, followed by additional formalin baths (as needed - but give the fish a day to recuperate in-between baths). You can use formalin in a QT (at a much lower concentration than the bath), but great care must be taken to provide plenty of gas exchange as formalin will quickly deplete the water of oxygen. For this reason, doing baths is the safer option as the fish can be pulled from the formalin if showing signs of distress. Formalin-MS is preferred, as that contains 37% formaldehyde. However, in a bind, any medication containing formalin (ex. Quick Cure) is better than nothing. Alternative treatments for brook include metronidazole (ex. Seachem MetroPlex) and acriflavine (ex. Acriflavine-MS). A freshwater dip may provide temporary relief if you are unable to locate any of the aforementioned medications right away.
Symptoms – This is most often seen in clownfish, but it can afflict any fish. The fish’s skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off, oftentimes causing excessive white mucous to form around the affected area(s).
Treatment options - Formalin bath, followed by additional formalin baths (as needed - but give the fish a day to recuperate in-between baths). You can use formalin in a QT (at a much lower concentration than the bath), but great care must be taken to provide plenty of gas exchange as formalin will quickly deplete the water of oxygen. For this reason, doing baths is the safer option as the fish can be pulled from the formalin if showing signs of distress. Formalin-MS is preferred, as that contains 37% formaldehyde. However, in a bind, any medication containing formalin (ex. Quick Cure) is better than nothing. Alternative treatments for brook include metronidazole (ex. Seachem MetroPlex) and acriflavine (ex. Acriflavine-MS). A freshwater dip may provide temporary relief if you are unable to locate any of the aforementioned medications right away.
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I got 99% pure Acriflavine. How should I make a bath solution? It's from a koi pond supplier
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It is powered kind (expensive). I did the long term instead which says 200mg / 10G and make a bath for 3 to 5 days.
I broke out my petco all in one 10G setup on a black sale and its now setup with Acriflavine 200g/10G dosage. I used a digital scale to make the measurement and made the bath with new salt water. It seems very tired and was resting at the bottom of the tank when I net him out.
I broke out my petco all in one 10G setup on a black sale and its now setup with Acriflavine 200g/10G dosage. I used a digital scale to make the measurement and made the bath with new salt water. It seems very tired and was resting at the bottom of the tank when I net him out.
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He seems to be more active in the new tank with Acriflavine. Breathing seems to be reduced now compared to this morning. I will do a water change /w Acriflavine in the morning to make sure Ammonia is not too high.
