powder blue has ich

[HenryReefer]

Hi my powder blue has ich. i have been treating the DT with ruby reef kick ich and rally for almost 2 weeks and dont see much improvement in him. does anyone have any advice for me as to what i should do to treat him? he is just way tooo fast to catch to put him in a QT tank.

 

[Brian Kim]

There are not many choices when it comes to treating MI sadly. A lot of these products that claims to be reef safe hardly ever works and for obvious reasons what works for Ich can't be used on our DT.
I would recommend removing not only him but all of the fishes from your dispay tank and treat them in a separate system (QT, Hospital tank) using Cupramine and while at it, treat them for flukes as well using Prazipro.

 

[Wesley42079]

Power Blue's are notorious for getting ich very easily. You can try to buy a box to somehow catch the fish, or gut out your tank so you can pull him out.

Now that you DT has ich, you will need to keep it fallow for atleast 90+ days to make sure that the ich has ran through its life cycle and will no longer be able to host and reproduce all over again.

Good luck.

 

[Brian Kim]

There are a lot of posts in regards to marine ich written by Humblefish, let me see if I can find a link

 

[Brian Kim]

http://reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-quarantine.189815/
http://reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-treat-ich.191226/
http://reef2reef.com/threads/fallow-periods-going-fishless.190324/

Make sure you don't use products like Prime or Stresscoat, (when treating with copper) if you are using tapwater, it will make your water toxic.
Fallow (fishless DT) period should be 78 days and all fish needs to be removed

 

[melypr1985]

Hi my powder blue has ich. i have been treating the DT with ruby reef kick ich and rally for almost 2 weeks and dont see much improvement in him. does anyone have any advice for me as to what i should do to treat him? he is just way tooo fast to catch to put him in a QT tank.

Nothing that says "reef safe" is going to kill ich. I'm sorry to say, but you do need to take all your fish out. Good advice has been given above, so I'll only add that... I know it sucks, but drain your DT's water level down to a couple inches to make it easier to catch your fish. Use that water to fill your QT, put the rest back and finish filling with fresh saltwater. sorry about the troubles.

 

[RMS18]

The advice above is the best it can get, I know how you feel I just finished up a qt/copper little over a month ago. It's work having a qt and keeping up with water changes but it's the best solution. Knowing my fish are ich free (99.9% sure) is a good feeling. You can also try the tank transfer method of you don't want to use copper as I did lose 1 fish. Copper can be very hard on fish and their appetites. The dt tank still needs to be fishless for 72 days. There was one article back in the 1990's where a strain of ich lived host free for 72 days so that is where that number came from. Some people go 60 days but at that point what's another 12 days lol. Good luck!

 

[melypr1985]

The advice above is the best it can get, I know how you feel I just finished up a qt/copper little over a month ago. It's work having a qt and keeping up with water changes but it's the best solution. Knowing my fish are ich free (99.9% sure) is a good feeling. You can also try the tank transfer method of you don't want to use copper as I did lose 1 fish. Copper can be very hard on fish and their appetites. The dt tank still needs to be fishless for 72 days. There was one article back in the 1990's where a strain of ich lived host free for 72 days so that is where that number came from. Some people go 60 days but at that point what's another 12 days lol. Good luck!

76 days now Humble redid the math on that

 

[RMS18]

76 days now Humble redid the math on that

Oo great so my fish still have ich

 

[melypr1985]

Oo great so my fish still have ich

lol.

 

[Josh King]

My Powder brown has ich also. Sad thing is that I QTed all the fish for 2 weeks before adding. One day my heater went belly up, the temp dropped to 73 and then the ich showed up on him. The ich may have been on the live rock, being that it was a new tank with new live rock? Anyway, I feel your pain Henryreefer and will be doing the above song and dance and looking at a fishless tank for 76ish (lol) days.

 

[melypr1985]

My Powder brown has ich also. Sad thing is that I QTed all the fish for 2 weeks before adding. One day my heater went belly up, the temp dropped to 73 and then the ich showed up on him. The ich may have been on the live rock, being that it was a new tank with new live rock? Anyway, I feel your pain Henryreefer and will be doing the above song and dance and looking at a fishless tank for 76ish (lol) days.

The ich could have traveled in on your fish. It can go unnoticed in the gills until a situation occurs that gives it a leg up on the fish. TTM or prophylactic copper/CP treatment is the way to go to be 99% sure you don't carry ich into your DT.

 

[Hardridge]

I fed mine a lot and kept Algae with garlic and my blue tang was fine. This is advice i got on here and it worked for me

 

[blackgrouper79]

Hi my powder blue has ich. i have been treating the DT with ruby reef kick ich and rally for almost 2 weeks and dont see much improvement in him. does anyone have any advice for me as to what i should do to treat him? he is just way tooo fast to catch to put him in a QT tank.

I'll tell you how to get rid of ich. Feed Dr. Gs medicated nutrition (anti-parasitic Rx) and weekly to bi weekly water changes. I recently bought a complete tank set up off of craigslist with fish corals the works. All of the fish ended up with ich and other external skin, fin and eye issues (you name it my fish had it). I started to feed the fish Dr. Gs and knocked out all issues in about 3 weeks. During their treatment there were ups and downs (I did lose my kole tang) one day my naso would look like crap the next he looked better and the blue tang looked worse than the day before then my purple tang would end up with something--this went on and on back and forth but the water changes seemed to help when things were looking really grim. So weather it was a combination of my proactive approaches or simply the fish's immune systems kicking in but the ich is gone and I would say the Dr. Gs helped if not cured the issues. And it is totally reef safe just don't let any uneaten food sit on your corals which is recommended on the packaging. Good luck!!

 

[melypr1985]

I'll tell you how to get rid of ich. Feed Dr. Gs medicated nutrition (anti-parasitic Rx) and weekly to bi weekly water changes. I recently bought a complete tank set up off of craigslist with fish corals the works. All of the fish ended up with ich and other external skin, fin and eye issues (you name it my fish had it). I started to feed the fish Dr. Gs and knocked out all issues in about 3 weeks. During their treatment there were ups and downs (I did lose my kole tang) one day my naso would look like crap the next he looked better and the blue tang looked worse than the day before then my purple tang would end up with something--this went on and on back and forth but the water changes seemed to help when things were looking really grim. So weather it was a combination of my proactive approaches or simply the fish's immune systems kicking in but the ich is gone and I would say the Dr. Gs helped if not cured the issues. And it is totally reef safe just don't let any uneaten food sit on your corals which is recommended on the packaging. Good luck!!

I promise the Dr G's didn't "cure" your ich. It only boosted their immune system so they can live with ich. The ich is still in your system and will stay there as long as fish are present to feed on. The only way to rid your tank of ich is to go fallow for 76 days.

 

[blackgrouper79]

I promise the Dr G's didn't "cure" your ich. It only boosted their immune system so they can live with ich. The ich is still in your system and will stay there as long as fish are present to feed on. The only way to rid your tank of ich is to go fallow for 76 days.

Ok so Dr. Gs didn't cure my ich issue and then you say it "only boosted their immune system so they can live with it". I agree that the ich is probably still present. However, the ich is no longer an issue so I'd say that the Dr. Gs cured the fish that were suffering from ich, cloudy eyes and fin issues. Now whether Dr. Gs killed the ich or boosted the fish's immune systems is up for debate but I will say that Dr. Gs helped and my fish are alive ich free and I have since added fish and haven't had any issues. Bottom line being I don't have ich covering my fish and Dr. Gs helped eradicate the "visible" ich and other external issues that plagued my fish. In my personal and professional opinion without the help of Dr. Gs I would've either had to remove and quarantine my newly acquired fish or sit back and watch them slowly die.

 

[melypr1985]

I'm not debating anything. I'm saying sure.. it helped because it boosted their immune system enough to keep the ich from taking over and killing them quickly. They still have ich in their gills feeding off them. It's a fact. They will probably live a while like this.. maybe even 5 years... but probably not to the full life span of the fish. You can say it helped, but please dont say it's a cure.

 

[blackgrouper79]

I'm not debating anything. I'm saying sure.. it helped because it boosted their immune system enough to keep the ich from taking over and killing them quickly. They still have ich in their gills feeding off them. It's a fact. They will probably live a while like this.. maybe even 5 years... but probably not to the full life span of the fish. You can say it helped, but please dont say it's a cure.

OK…….
You must have misunderstood what I said and sorry that you're getting hung up on the semantics; I really didn't think I'd have to spell out what I was trying to convey. I said " the ich is gone and I would say the Dr. Gs helped if not cured the issue". I guess I should've said "cured the symptoms" but I figured people could figure that out. I will say that the fish in this system show no signs of ich nor ich related respiratory issues like they were before the treatment. Now is ich still present in the system? Probably. Will it come back? Maybe. Over the past 20 something years I've tried everything and I've got to say that this is the first OTC that seems to actually work. I will say first hand that I've witnessed several reef tanks and say a hundred fish +or- kick ich using this product. And yes pretty much every OTC reef safe ich killer available is garbage.
Just curious why you would use ich-contaminated DT water to fill a fresh QT- why wouldn't you acclimate the fish to fresh new water if you are attempting to quarantine them? The reason I ask is because the water quality could've started the issue.

 

[melypr1985]

OK…….
You must have misunderstood what I said and sorry that you're getting hung up on the semantics; I really didn't think I'd have to spell out what I was trying to convey. I said " the ich is gone and I would say the Dr. Gs helped if not cured the issue". I guess I should've said "cured the symptoms" but I figured people could figure that out. I will say that the fish in this system show no signs of ich nor ich related respiratory issues like they were before the treatment. Now is ich still present in the system? Probably. Will it come back? Maybe. Over the past 20 something years I've tried everything and I've got to say that this is the first OTC that seems to actually work. I will say first hand that I've witnessed several reef tanks and say a hundred fish +or- kick ich using this product. And yes pretty much every OTC reef safe ich killer available is garbage.
Just curious why you would use ich-contaminated DT water to fill a fresh QT- why wouldn't you acclimate the fish to fresh new water if you are attempting to quarantine them? The reason I ask is because the water quality could've started the issue.

If your asking me about the water thing, it's so you can just switch them to the QT without acclimating at all. I like using fresh made saltwater in a QT but it works to use the DT water if your parameters are fine. It's just another way to do it. You wouldn't need to acclimate the fish at all even when using fresh made saltwater as long as you match SG and Temp. You wouldn't use your DT water to do water changes after the initial fill, just fresh made saltwater, so you dont continue to reintroduce parasites into your QT.

 

[ss95003]

So you guys think if you leave your DT free of fish for 76 days QT your fish then put your fish back in the DT it's impossiable for them to get ich again?