powder blue has ich

Josh King · Dec 3, 2015

ss95003 said:
So you guys think if you leave your DT free of fish for 76 days QT your fish then put your fish back in the DT it's impossiable for them to get ich again?

I was wondering the same thing. I did QT all my fish and treated with malachite green and prazipo for 2 weeks. Then my heater went and they still got ich. ? So I was thinking it was on the live rock or something.

Josh King · Dec 3, 2015

Josh King said:
I was wondering the same thing. I did QT all my fish and treated with malachite green and prazipo for 2 weeks. Then my heater went and they still got ich. ? So I was thinking it was on the live rock or something.

The system was set up July 2015, live rock added in August, fish added late Sept after QT, then the heater went in Oct. The live rock came directly from the gulf of mexico.

melypr1985 · Dec 3, 2015

Unless you have a really long lived strain of ich, they will die out of starvation. Proper prophylactic treatment for ich such as TTM, copper, or CP before adding to the Display + the fallow period of 76 days will give you 99% assurance that you are ich free. Ich has to be introduced to the tank, it doesn't just appear out of nowhere.
So yes. I do really know that.
Malachite green isn't an ich treatment. That's why your fish got it when your heater went out.

Josh King · Dec 3, 2015

Wardley's ick away isn't an ich treatment? That sucks. I knew I should have bought some new medication. I had it from my former tank and it was old.. real old. I know, I know. Well thanks for your help.

blackgrouper79 · Dec 3, 2015

melypr1985 said:
If your asking me about the water thing, it's so you can just switch them to the QT without acclimating at all. I like using fresh made saltwater in a QT but it works to use the DT water if your parameters are fine. It's just another way to do it. You wouldn't need to acclimate the fish at all even when using fresh made saltwater as long as you match SG and Temp. You wouldn't use your DT water to do water changes after the initial fill, just fresh made saltwater, so you dont continue to reintroduce parasites into your QT.

Thats what I was figuring I'm just wondering what started the tangs issue. I would think a fresh water change would help the fish just because they'd be going into pristine water and that would probably help kick start the fish's immune system just because they wouldn't be struggling with possible bad water conditions that could've started the issue in the first place.?.? We still don't know what started the issue (or I missed it) but I'm just a firm believer that when things are going down hill water change water change at least as a first step.

melypr1985 · Dec 3, 2015

blackgrouper79 said:
Thats what I was figuring I'm just wondering what started the tangs issue. I would think a fresh water change would help the fish just because they'd be going into pristine water and that would probably help kick start the fish's immune system just because they wouldn't be struggling with possible bad water conditions that could've started the issue in the first place.?.? We still don't know what started the issue (or I missed it) but I'm just a firm believer that when things are going down hill water change water change at least as a first step.

I agree that a water change never hurts. When in doubt, do a water change

ss95003 · Dec 3, 2015

melypr1985 said:
Unless you have a really long lived strain of ich, they will die out of starvation. Proper prophylactic treatment for ich such as TTM, copper, or CP before adding to the Display + the fallow period of 76 days will give you 99% assurance that you are ich free. Ich has to be introduced to the tank, it doesn't just appear out of nowhere.
So yes. I do really know that.
Malachite green isn't an ich treatment. That's why your fish got it when your heater went out.

I agree it does not appear out of anywhere. I disagree that your going to have an ich free environment.
I will say if you have an addiquite qt system, and do what you say above your DT is probably well taken care of you do your research on fish you add and are careful about thing. Which I think goes a long way keeping fish happy. I just disagree you have this ich free environment.

blackgrouper79 · Dec 3, 2015

ss95003 said:
I agree it does not appear out of anywhere. I disagree that your going to have an ich free environment.
I will say if you have an addiquite qt system, and do what you say above your DT is probably well taken care of you do your research on fish you add and are careful about thing. Which I think goes a long way keeping fish happy. I just disagree you have this ich free environment.

I personally think all fish are carriers of ich it's just when will it show up and why did it show up--it's always there its just a matter of keeping it in check.

melypr1985 · Dec 3, 2015

ss95003 said:
I agree it does not appear out of anywhere. I disagree that your going to have an ich free environment.
I will say if you have an addiquite qt system, and do what you say above your DT is probably well taken care of you do your research on fish you add and are careful about thing. Which I think goes a long way keeping fish happy. I just disagree you have this ich free environment.

it's not 100% because ich can come into the tank on any hard wet surface- coral skeletons, snail or hermit shells ect.
We seem to have different ways of doing things and that's ok.

HenryReefer · Dec 4, 2015

Wesley42079 said:
Power Blue's are notorious for getting ich very easily. You can try to buy a box to somehow catch the fish, or gut out your tank so you can pull him out.

Now that you DT has ich, you will need to keep it fallow for atleast 90+ days to make sure that the ich has ran through its life cycle and will no longer be able to host and reproduce all over again.

Good luck.

so i went and got a 40 breeder and hooked up a eheim canister filter and now am catching the fish slowly to put in the new QT system. my question is i cant put inverts in the QT because the ich treatment will kill them. will the ich latch onto my shrimp, crabs, and snails?

melypr1985 · Dec 4, 2015

HenryReefer said:
so i went and got a 40 breeder and hooked up a eheim canister filter and now am catching the fish slowly to put in the new QT system. my question is i cant put inverts in the QT because the ich treatment will kill them. will the ich latch onto my shrimp, crabs, and snails?

You can leave your inverts in the DT. They dont feed off of inverts or anything, they wll just spend a short time of their life cycle encysted on their shells. Once they break free from those cysts and arn't able to fine fish to feed on they will die. That's why we say to leave the DT fallow (without fish) for 76 days. That's the longest it has taken for this process to happen.