Power-up your Acro's..........

[rdevoe11]

As always "if you think you going slow..... slow down even more!"
It's not a race to have the best reef/coral tank but the best experience getting there!

exactly...I think I may have rushed it a little too much with my tank. It is still a very young setup, so Ive decided to slow it wayyyyyyy down, but not totally jumping off the acropower ship. I plan on actually stopping my small daily dosing for say 6 months, give my tank a chance to continue to mature and allow myself to more fully understand what it needs...then Ill give it another shot and see what happens!

 

[Diesel]

My colors were already good and my polyps were already out. How were your corals before using it? Maybe it will help with poorly colored ones

I came from a full ZEO system and had awesome color, PE and growth.
Reason for the switch I was ready for a new challenge.
Same as I'm thinking to challenge a new brand of MH and LED unit.

 

[diesel3443]

Sorry to read that it isn't working for some ppl.
Maybe take some time out to find the balance of your system and reduce the dosing a bit.
I took a test on my newly setup frag grow-out system and start dosing the recommended dose per gallon on the bottle and yes I had some build up that I had to clean every day.
Reduced it with 75% and after a few days it cleared up.
As we speak I dose only 50% of recommended dose and do it on a weekly schedule.
No build up, Yes on PE, color is somewhat coming back slowly.
Not dosing only AP but ad to that potassium and a mix of reef chilly with oyster feast and selcon.

On a side note, I believe that I did nothing wrong to post my experience from this product used in my system on the forum.
If this product isn't working for you maybe something else on your system isn't right or you rushing it.
It took me 4 weeks before I reached the right dosing formula for my system.
Friends with the inventor............. as in friend friends........... NO!
IMO we are all friends of this hobby on this forum.

As always "if you think you going slow..... slow down even more!"
It's not a race to have the best reef/coral tank but the best experience getting there!

Ill thank you for posting it. I have seen positve results and so have some local guys

 

[EllisJuan]

So you tried for three days, saw no results, and decided it was a waste? Seems a bit quick.

Nothing good happens fast in a reef tank.

I have been using acropower for a couple months. I have seen a noted improvement in polyp extension and a difference in color. I'd bet if I hadn't gotten aefw again, that color would be much improved. But I digress.

Nope, I tried it for three days and got tired of having to clean my glass everyday. The AP is the only thing that changed. That coupled with others reporting the same thing leads me to believe that is what is causing the dirty glass.

 

[spsfrag]

So maybe I will try dosing once per week? Is that better than everyday? And should we dose night or day? I know it's been discussed earlier but no real answer has been given

 

[LowezAkar24]

Hey Diesel, my tank hasn't looked better. When I posted about the build up, it was only to see if I was the only one that experienced this. I am certainly not abandoning Acropower because it is very good stuff. I will change from my daily doseage to a weekly doseage. Thanks again for opening my eyes to this product. GreenStreet.1 gets a lot of respect from me for helping me out like a true brother. This hobby is a beautiful thing.

 

[diesel3443]

So maybe I will try dosing once per week? Is that better than everyday? And should we dose night or day? I know it's been discussed earlier but no real answer has been given

I tried once per week but seem to have better results myself on a daily basis.

 

[Acro]

You think overdosing browns out corals? Just curious

 

[Alabamareef]

Hello all, man this is a long thread. I've almost finished a bottle of AP. I also use K and feed my tank well. I really started using it to help with color. I also adjusted my lights a bit, lowering the white and extending the Royal Blue photoperiod. I have noticed some better color but not sure if it's really the AP or the light adjustment. Anyhow I've almost finished 1 bottle. Is this enough to tell a differance, 1 bottle. Also it's the cheepest amminos I've found to add to the tank and for that I may continue to use it.

 

[Big E]

I also adjusted my lights a bit, lowering the white and extending the Royal Blue photoperiod

This always helps and is the first suggestion I make to people with color issues. In general terms whites turned up too high, long, or there are just too many white to blue diodes are all causes of poor color.

Deisel-

If this product isn't working for you maybe something else on your system isn't right or you rushing it.

Me,
If Acropower doesn't work for you that's all you need to know...........why try to jump through hoops trying to get it to do something it's never going to do in your tank. You're not dosing or using it wrong...........it simply has no effect in your tank. Trust your own experience.

 

[Diesel]

Again we not talking about a super coral drug here although one if the leading coral vendors praise it as coral crack cause it does work.
Not always you see improvements but that doesn't mean it ain't working for ya.
We all know corals are in need of AA, SPS more than other corals.
The reviews that I post is all out of expierience.
Now AA alone isn't enough, not even close.
I test on a weekly schedule for alk, cal, mag and K, K as in potassium.
IMO, potassium is more important factor than AA.
Like dosing alk and cal, without adding mag it will not fly.
And yes by no means, if you feel like out of expierience that AP isn't working for some of the hobbyist try something else.
You know AA is a important factor of a reef tank, same as water changes.
How often you change our water and how much % of you total system?
Flow, light, do you over skim?
Lots of factors, that's what I love about this hobby, the constant challenge to find and keep the balance.

 

[spsfrag]

I would agree we have to find the balance. The one thing I have learned in this hobby is when we see amazing corals or tanks we all ask what lights do you have what salt do you use etc. and you go out and buy them and it doesn't work. There are so many variables to consider. That's why I love this hobby you always test, tinker and wait. I will always have ap on hand, I may not dose consistently but I believe at some poit I will need it just because thing always change.

 

[marke]

Here is my opinion. This stuff like all coral foods will work if you have a low nutrient system. To me that means 0 nitrates and po4 below .03 on a real tester. If you have no nutrients in the water then corals need food supplementation. It could be aminos. Reef chilly stuff or fish food. If your system is high in nutrients (fish poop) then adding more stuff will probably increase your nutrients Corals have plenty of food in a high nutrient system. No need to add stuff. Just the opposite work on reducing nutrients and we see sps improvement. Diesel you mentioned you were using zeovit I think the purpose is to get to low nutrient system then start feeding. Diesel. I would like to learn more about you zeo experience?

 

[Diesel]

Here is my opinion. This stuff like all coral foods will work if you have a low nutrient system. To me that means 0 nitrates and po4 below .03 on a real tester. If you have no nutrients in the water then corals need food supplementation. It could be aminos. Reef chilly stuff or fish food. If your system is high in nutrients (fish poop) then adding more stuff will probably increase your nutrients Corals have plenty of food in a high nutrient system. No need to add stuff. Just the opposite work on reducing nutrients and we see sps improvement. Diesel you mentioned you were using zeovit I think the purpose is to get to low nutrient system then start feeding. Diesel. I would like to learn more about you zeo experience?

Some what of truth in here!
This comment relate to both, I used to be a Pro Athlete back in the days and only perfect workout makes a good workout.
But a workout without a nutrient diet is not making you reach your limit.
That said is basically what ZEO is about, I talked to several German greats in the marine hobby and ZEO is nothing else than just give your corals per dose the right nutrients and food for them to perform on a top level.
Everything is balanced out but still need some tweaking by the hobbyist for their system, not every system is the same.
Coming back to AA, I bet that ................ 80% of the hobbyist don't know what AA is doing to your corals and why you use it other than getting the awesome colors.
Are all AA the same................. not really.
Just read this article from Tim Wijgerde, Aquarium Corals: Amino Acids and Corals: Sources, Roles and Supplementation ? Advanced Aquarist | Aquarist Magazine and Blog.
It gives you a better understanding what AA are for and why to use it.
Just believing and following other hobbyist and don't know what you're doing and making a statement that it isn't working doesn't make sense.
Not saying here that I'm a PH-D on this level, but if I want a piece of the pie I'm always looking not to get the whole pie but the recipe.
Only than you can share your experiences on a larger scale.
I know this is kinda deep but it works for me if you make it your own.

Btw, I did slowly stop the ZEO challenge.
I had awesome results and I know it's working but I was ready for a different challenge.
And in year maybe sooner I'm ready to take on another challenge to try out on my system, heck I'm already doing it on my frag system that I have setup.

 

[that Reef Guy]

Some what of truth in here!
This comment relate to both, I used to be a Pro Athlete back in the days and only perfect workout makes a good workout.
But a workout without a nutrient diet is not making you reach your limit.
That said is basically what ZEO is about, I talked to several German greats in the marine hobby and ZEO is nothing else than just give your corals per dose the right nutrients and food for them to perform on a top level.
Everything is balanced out but still need some tweaking by the hobbyist for their system, not every system is the same.
Coming back to AA, I bet that ................ 80% of the hobbyist don't know what AA is doing to your corals and why you use it other than getting the awesome colors.
Are all AA the same................. not really.
Just read this article from Tim Wijgerde, Aquarium Corals: Amino Acids and Corals: Sources, Roles and Supplementation ? Advanced Aquarist | Aquarist Magazine and Blog.
It gives you a better understanding what AA are for and why to use it.
Just believing and following other hobbyist and don't know what you're doing and making a statement that it isn't working doesn't make sense.
Not saying here that I'm a PH-D on this level, but if I want a piece of the pie I'm always looking not to get the whole pie but the recipe.
Only than you can share your experiences on a larger scale.
I know this is kinda deep but it works for me if you make it your own.

Btw, I did slowly stop the ZEO challenge.
I had awesome results and I know it's working but I was ready for a different challenge.
And in year maybe sooner I'm ready to take on another challenge to try out on my system, heck I'm already doing it on my frag system that I have setup.

Cool.

What kind of Athlete are you?

 

[Big E]

From Tim's article which is basically a conglomeration of numerous studies and articles that have been available for years.........some of which I posted early on in this thread.

"Despite our scientific knowledge on amino acids and corals, there are no studies that show how dosing concentrated amino acids affects corals. In this perspective, there seems to be uncharted territory for both aquarists and scientists, who can test the effects of concentrated amino acids on coral growth and coloration. "

It's really simple as all the facts have been out there for years and mentioned again by marke..............If you aren't supplying food for fish or feeding your reef and its nutrient poor it may benefit from amino acid dosing.

Aminos will add nitrogen to the system but aren't gong to do anything for a nutrient poor system that has no PO4 cycling through the system from adding food.

 

[marke]

When sufficient amino acids including aspartic acid are available in dissolved or particulate form, it may not matter what the source is. Thus, aquarists who already feed their corals heavily may not see an added effect of concentrated amino acids such as aspartic acid.

The above quote was taken from the article. Aminos are important but can be obtained from food or poop. Or high nutrient systems. In a low nutrient system feeding corals becomes more necessary. Most reefers can not attain ultra low nutrients. Hence adding more food is only polluting out system furthur. If you reach a low nutrient system (which is difficult). You must feed heavy including aa. Sps and other corals look and grow the best in low nutrient. My goal is to get to low nutrient system. If more reefers spent time focusing on reducing nutrients as apposed to magic in a bottle that sat on the shelf for a year they would be happier.

 

[that Reef Guy]

From Tim's article which is basically a conglomeration of numerous studies and articles that have been available for years.........some of which I posted early on in this thread.

"Despite our scientific knowledge on amino acids and corals, there are no studies that show how dosing concentrated amino acids affects corals. In this perspective, there seems to be uncharted territory for both aquarists and scientists, who can test the effects of concentrated amino acids on coral growth and coloration. "

It's really simple as all the facts have been out there for years and mentioned again by marke..............If you aren't supplying food for fish or feeding your reef and its nutrient poor it may benefit from amino acid dosing.

Aminos will add nitrogen to the system but aren't gong to do anything for a nutrient poor system that has no PO4 cycling through the system from adding food.

What does Nitrogen do?

How is it beneficial?

 

[d2mini]

First off, I still do dose me some acropower goodness.
But any faith I still had in the ReefBuilders review has now vanished into thin air like the seeds from a dandelion in a warm spring breeze after reading this article about the Red Sea Refractometer which is apparently made by luck dragons and magical reef fairies in a land far far away.
We can only recommend Red Sea?s Refractometer for measuring aquarium salinity

 

[Diesel]

I guess I have to start a new thread that the Red Sea Ref meter makes you coral grow like crazy and you color pop like fireworks just cause this is the device that we were looking for to have for years.
Nothing is better that your tank water is measured by the Red Sea Refractometer!!