Pro Reef salt from Turkey

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Interesting @poidog. This is a completely random thought, but if they are using Turkey to manufacture and supply North America, and not Europe, why didn't they just set up a plant here in North America? I'm sure labor is cheaper in Turkey, but its not any cheaper than Germany! I'm sure they could have setup a plant in the southwest USA or Mexico and got a great direct source of salt and competitive labor.

I hope they shut down that plant permanently, learn from their mistakes, and add a N.A. plant. They could probably even get the costs down. Not sure what this German company was thinking.

For me, I switched to BW Neo for now but will plan to try the German sourced salt soon after seeing their response and the BRS video.
 
spicymikey said:
Interesting @poidog. This is a completely random thought, but if they are using Turkey to manufacture and supply North America, and not Europe, why didn't they just set up a plant here in North America? I'm sure labor is cheaper in Turkey, but its not any cheaper than Germany! I'm sure they could have setup a plant in the southwest USA or Mexico and got a great direct source of salt and competitive labor.

I hope they shut down that plant permanently, learn from their mistakes, and add a N.A. plant. They could probably even get the costs down. Not sure what this German company was thinking.

For me, I switched to BW Neo for now but will plan to try the German sourced salt soon after seeing their response and the BRS video.
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The video BRS made recently stated that the reason they haven't opened a plant in the US is because they couldn't find a pure residue-free source of sodium chloride in the US.
 
The video also commended TM several times for taking Ryan's complaint seriously from the get go with no pushback. I'd love to know the timeline on that call because there was definitely pushback initially on this forum. BRS is monitoring these threads as well so I didn't find the extreme praise entirely genuine.
 
icedearth15324 said:
The video BRS made recently stated that the reason they haven't opened a plant in the US is because they couldn't find a pure residue-free source of sodium chloride in the US.
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ESV... they are manufactured in USA and they mix quickly and crystal clear, according to BRS's own tests.
 
Cell said:
The video also commended TM several times for taking Ryan's complaint seriously from the get go with no pushback. I'd love to know the timeline on that call because there was definitely pushback initially on this forum. BRS is monitoring these threads as well so I didn't find the extreme praise entirely genuine.
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Maybe BRS was the final straw in trying to deflect the complaints.
 
icedearth15324 said:
The video BRS made recently stated that the reason they haven't opened a plant in the US is because they couldn't find a pure residue-free source of sodium chloride in the US.
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Wonder where BRS got that info.

There are 2 manufacturers of USP grade NaCl in the US, and 1 for Reagent graded NaCl. At least last time I checked a few years ago. I know this number hasn't decreased, and to my knowledge hasn't increased either.
 
icedearth15324 said:
The video BRS made recently stated that the reason they haven't opened a plant in the US is because they couldn't find a pure residue-free source of sodium chloride in the US.
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I know. I heard Ryan say that. But clearly we know thats not true.
We are blessed with more than our share of salt deposits and pharmaceutical/food grade processing plants. Certainly more than Turkey!. I'm surprised he even said that with a straight face.

I was just assuming it was economics and they didn't want to admit they were using cheap labor at the expense of quality control. I get it.

But now that we know this plant was setup to feed N.A. its needs, and not Europe, the economic reasons don't add up anymore. So it seems like a strange business decision to say the least. Germans! LOL
 
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Maybe BRS was the final straw in trying to deflect the complaints.
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My assumption was Ryan's call was well after these threads had been started but who knows. I can't believe he wasnt aware of these threads if this is correct though.
 
I have no confidence in the messages from that BRS video, and I have mentioned here before that I thought it did more harm than good.

However despite that, a supply of pharmaceutical grade salt being available in the US doesn’t necessarily mean that was immediately available for TM to use in the quantities desired, or that a suitable processing plant was available at short notice (which was presumably one of the aims to try overcome the immediate stock shortages).

There were other comments on that video that I found more disingenuous than the possibility that there was no immediately available US facility that they could use.
 
icedearth15324 said:
The video BRS made recently stated that the reason they haven't opened a plant in the US is because they couldn't find a pure residue-free source of sodium chloride in the US.
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Seems like they didn't hit a home run in Turkey either, but that didn't stop em.
 
FishyFishFish said:
I have no confidence in the messages from that BRS video, and I have mentioned here before that I thought it did more harm than good.

However despite that, a supply of pharmaceutical grade salt being available in the US doesn’t necessarily mean that was immediately available for TM to use in the quantities desired, or that a suitable processing plant was available at short notice (which was presumably one of the aims to try overcome the immediate stock shortages).

There were other comments on that video that I found more disingenuous than the possibility that there was no immediately available US facility that they could use.
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They have a huge source for Instant Ocean and Reef Crystals for how popular those 2 are in the US.
 
Brian_68 said:
They have a huge source for Instant Ocean and Reef Crystals for how popular those 2 are in the US.
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If IO or RC is your raw material benchmark then why not buy those instead and save some money (I do).
 
icedearth15324 said:
The video BRS made recently stated that the reason they haven't opened a plant in the US is because they couldn't find a pure residue-free source of sodium chloride in the US.
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Don't think they did in Turkey either:D
 
Frogspon said:
The only "unbelievable comment" here is your proclamation of being made whole while others are left in the dark... and then trying to act like it's anything but. lol

What exactly would you like us to refer to your preferential treatment as champ?
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Let's keep it civil, please.
 
I didn't keep any Turkey packaging so I guess I'm using my Pro Reef for my FOWLR.
 

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